On Apr 22, 5:06=A0am, PL <pl.nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
[snipping ****tions of PL's posting already debunked here, or too lame
to bother with]
> >>>>> That is why, under the terms of the US embargo (Section 206
> >>>>> of the Helms-Burton Act), the Cuban people would not be allowed
free=
ly
> >>>>> reject capitalism a(snip)
> >>>> false.
> >>>> HB allows all systems mixed, democratic socialist,
> >>> Oh, it "allows" these things, does it? How generous the Empire
is!(sni=
p)
> >> HB doesn't impose anything on Cuba; Dan.
> >> It merely sets the basic conditions for the lifting of the trade
> >> sanctions like settling trade and property disputes plus democratic
and=
> >> human rights requirements.
>
> > You mean "basic conditions" like dismantling the political system
> > that,
>
> his do***ented as a repressive abusive regime that is on the list of
> Genocide Watch.
Already debunked here. The only genocide here is your beloved embargo.
See featured article, "Is the US embargo a form of genocide?" at my
website.
>
> > despite decades of genocidal US trade sanctions,(snip)
>
[snip]
What Mr. Lobbyist snipped for obvious reasons:
You mean "basic conditions" like dismantling the political system
that, despite decades of genocidal US trade sanctions, has produced
the best health care and education system in the region. And the Cuban
people are to have no say in the matter. Can't have them making the
same "mistake" twice, right, Mr. Lobbiyst. What arrogance!
> There are no "genocidal trade sanctions"
Already debunked here, Nazi boy, but thanks for confirming that you
have no intention of letting the Cuban people choose their own future.
It doesn't matter what kind of elections they hold -- it's capitalism
or death, right, Mr. Lobbyist? So much for your supposed commitment to
democracy. But we always knew that was nothing more than a smokescreen
to hide your evil intentions!
> >> Since your first messages in SCC you have been praising Stalin.
>
> > Let's see these "messages" of yours. (snip)
>
> Weren't you the one praising "workers" democracy in a Stalinist
newsgroup?=
>
> "From postings on this list and readings elsewhere, I get the impression
> -- =A0correct me if I am wrong -- that the Stalinist era was
characterized=
> by a direct, workers' democracy at the factory and local levels. There
> was clearly more industrial democracy in the USSR during this time than
> in the capitalist
countries."http://www.leninism.org/stream/99/mll/0131-da=
nchr.asp
>
[snip]
Poor, pathetic lobbyist... Driven to despair, he resorts again to more
"creative" snipping. (Likewise for his other pathetic attempts here.)
In this case, in the same posting, I state that Stalin was ultimately
a failure as a revolutionary for failing to introduce the necessary
democratic reforms. What kind of "Stalinist" is that??? But thanks for
confirming once again what truly desperate liar you are, Mr. Lobbyist!
What a loser.
> >>> HB excludes ANY system based on the
> >>> collective owner****p and control of the means of production
> >> (snip)
>
> >> Nope, it doesn't.
> >> A mixed socialist system is very possible.
>
> > [snip]
>
> > What right does the Empire have to dictate to the Cuban people (snip)
>
> The US has the right to decide' under what cir***stances it enters in to
> full economic and diplomatic relations with a country.
> That is a sovereign right of the US.
[snip]
The US embargo has been condemned by the UN every year for the past 16
years, even by most of your closest allies. Only Israel (who trades
with Cuba anyway), and a few US colonies in the South Pacific voted
with you in the General Assembly. Your beloved embargo has also been
condemned by Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and even the
Catholic Church. AI, for example, has said that these cruel sanctions
of yours are "used to harm the most vulnerable members of [Cuban]
society." No one is buying into genocidal fantasies, Mr. Lobbyist.
Deal with it.
Again, the Empire is no moral right to impose genocidal trade
sanctions on a nation because they insist on pursuing their own
independent path of development. But thanks for confirming that you
see nothing wrong with that. It's capitalism or death, right, Mr.
Lobbyist? An imperialist and a fascist through and through, you are
one disgusting, hateful, little man!
> US officials themselves have said that change must come from within and
> they want to sup****t that change.
>
[snip]
Helms-Burton (Section 206), which is still in effect, betrays their
hidden motives, as we see above. The Empire have no intention of
letting Cubans determine their own future. And you fully sup****t this.
Whatever it takes, right, Mr. Lobbyist?
Dan
Visit my CUBA: Issues & Answers website at
http://www.netcom.ca/~dchris/Cuba=
FAQ.html
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