Dan Christensen wrote:
> On May 1, 3:20 am, PL <pl.nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> [snipping ****tions of PL's posting already debunked here, or too lame
> to bother to bother with]
>
>
>>> Ah, NOW we are getting somewhere!
>>> So, Amnesty International re****ts (snip)
>> I am not referring to Amnesty. I am referring to your lies about me.
>>
>
> I was referring to re****ts from AI.
> And you said it was "a pack of
> lies.
Nope.
I referred to what you said and stated that:
this
"PL's political masters"
and this:
"allegations against Cuba"
are a pack of lies.
I have no masters and there are no mere "allegations" against Cuba but
do***ented facts.
See:
http://www.cubaverdad.net/links_to_human_rights_re****ts.htm
>>>> > Any> allegations of "torture" in Cuba seem to be nothing more than
the
>>>>> usual scuffles between prison staff and unruly prisoners
>>>> (snip)
>>>> a lie exposed here:
>>>> Human Rights Watch Re****ts:
>>>> The conditions in Cuba's prisons are inhuman, and political prisoners
>>>> suffer additional degrading treatment and
torture.http://hrw.org/doc/?t=americas_pub&do***ent_limit=100,20
>>>> The punitive and intimidatory measures against political prisoners
that
>>>> caused severe pain and suffering violated Cuba's obligations under
the
>>>> Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading
>>>> Treatment or Punishment, which it ratified in 1995. Once again, in
the
>>>> past year the
>>>> government forbade access to its prisons by international human
rights
>>>> monitors and humanitarian groups, including the International
Committee
>>>> of the Red Cross
(ICRC).http://www.hrw.org/worldre****t/Americas-03.htm
>>> Nothing specific here. (snip)
>> just causing severe pain you mean?
>>
>
> Nothing to distinguish this from the usual scuffles between guards and
> unruly prisoners that happen everywhere.
false.
"punitive and intimidatory measures" against "political prisoners"
causing "severe pain and suffering"
targeted violence to inflict pain and suffering: torture.
>>>> Torture
>>>> This re****t shows that Cuba's treatment of political prisoners in
some
>>>> cases rises to the level of torture, violating Cuba's obligations
under
>>>> the Convention against Torture and under the Universal Declaration.7
The
>>>> convention bars torture and "acts of cruel, inhuman or degrading
>>>> treatment or punishment" and the Universal Declaration states that
"no
>>>> one shall be subjected to torture." 8 Cuba's imposition of prolonged
>>>> periods of incommunicado pretrial and post-conviction detention,
>>>> beatings, and
>>>> prosecutions of previously-tried political prisoners-where those
>>>> practices result in severe physical or psychological pain
>>>> orsuffering-constitute torture under the convention.
>>> Again, nothing specific
>> Just "general torture" and abuse you mean like beatings, isolation, ...
>>
> [snip]
>
> Nothing to distinguish this from the usual scuffles with unruly
> prisoners that happen everywhere. (snip)
false.
targeted beatings and abuses against political prisoners.
Torture
>>> Oddly, no such accounts can be found from more mainstream groups like
>>> AI, not even HRW.
>>> (snip)
>> yes they can.
>> Snipping them doesn't change that fact.
>> Note that the ISHR is a mainstream group.http://www.ishr.org/
>>
> [snip]
>
> Never heard of them. (snip)
but then you aren't really interested in Human Rights are you?
what desperate Dan snipped:
Cuba's Repressive Machinery details how Cuba's laws deny basic rights
such as freedom of expression, association, and movement, and describes
the plight of dozens of individuals prosecuted under those laws. The
263-page re****t also details ill-treatment rising to the level of
torture in Cuban prisons.
http://hrw.org/english/docs/1999/07/23/cuba947.htm
United Nations
At its fifty-seventh session in April, the U.N. Commission on Human
Rights passed a resolution expressing concern about continuing human
rights violations in Cuba, the ninth such resolution passed since 1991,
and urged the government to invite the U.N. special rap****teurs on
torture and on freedom of expression to visit the country.
In the resolution, the Commission noted that Cuba had made "no
satisfactory improvements" in the area of human rights. It expressed
particular concern at the "continued repression of members of the
political opposition," as well as about the "detention of dissidents and
all other persons detained or imprisoned for peacefully expressing their
political, religious and social views and for exercising their right to
full and equal participation in public affairs." An early draft of the
resolution criticized the U.S. economic embargo on Cuba, but that
language was omitted from the final version.
The resolution, which was sponsored by the Czech Republic, passed by a
22-20 vote, with a number of abstentions.
http://hrw.org/wr2k2/americas5.html
The screams of tormented women
"Day and night, the screams of tormented women in panic and desperation
who cry for God's mercy fall upon the deaf ears of prison authorities.
They are confined to narrow cells with no sunlight called "drawers" that
have cement beds, a hole on the ground for their bodily needs, and are
infested with a multitude of rodents, roaches, and other insects.
These female prisoners lack all sort of necessary personal possessions
and almost always have no water, even for bathing, often drinking this
precious liquid full of insects. The food distributed to them is
terrible, smells rotten, and is stored in receptacles lacking in
hygiene. Even prison officials have complained of the small quantities
served.
In these "drawers" the women remain weeks and months. When they scream
in terror due to the darkness (blackouts are common) and the heat, they
are injected sedatives that keep them half-drugged."
Source: http://www.cubanet.org/CNews/y03/nov03/10e8.htm
Journalist suspended by his hair by prison guards.
Frankfurt/M. - 27 May 2004. In protest against the continuing torture of
the journalist Normando Hernandez Gonzalez, whose tortures included
being suspended by his hair by prison guards, three fellow prisoners and
Herández himself went on a hunger strike. The prisoners are members of
the organisation "Christian Liberation Movement". Herández has been
imprisoned in "Kilo 51/2" in Pinar del Rio since September 2003. Since
he went on a hunger strike in autumn 2003 to protest against the
inhumane prison conditions, Herández has become victim of continuous
violent attacks.
Source: http://www.ishr.org/press/pr2004/may04/040527cuba.htm
They kept me in a punishment cell, ****d, with several fractures on one
leg.
Mr. Chairman, today I want to speak about torture, about what it means
for a human being to be tortured, to be humiliated, or what may be even
worse, to watch a friend, a companion, or a relative being tortured.
As many of you know, I spent twenty-two years in prison for political
reasons. Perhaps, I am the only delegate in this Commission who has
spent such a long time in prison, although there are several persons
here who have known in their own flesh the meaning of torture. I do not
care about their political ideology, and I offer to you my embrace of
solidarity, from tortured to tortured.
I had many friends in prison. One of them, Roberto López Chávez, was
just a kid. He went on a hunger strike to protest the abuses. The guards
denied him water, Roberto lay on the floor of his punishment cell,
agonizing, deliriously asking for water. water? The soldiers came in and
asked him: "Do you want water?"? The they took out their members and
urinated in his mouth, on his face? He died the following day. We were
cellmates; when he died I felt something wither inside me.
I recall when they kept me in a punishment cell, ****d, with several
fractures on one leg which never received medical care; today, those
bones remain jammed up together and displaced. One of the regular drills
among the guards was to stand on the steel mesh ceiling and throw at my
face buckets full of urine and excrement.
Mr. Chairman, I know the taste of the urine and the excrement of other
men? that practice does not leave marks; marks are left by beatings with
steel rods and by bayonet thrusts. My head is still covered with scars
and you can feel the cracks.
But, what can inflict more damage to human dignity, the urine and
excrements thrown all over your face or a bayonet's blow? Which is the
appropriate article for the discussion of this subject? Under which
technical point does it fall? Under what batch of papers, numbers, lines
and bars should we include this trampling of human dignity?
For me, and for innumerable other human beings around the world. The
violation of human rights was not a matter of re****ts, of negotiated
resolutions, of elegant and diplomatic rhetoric, for us was a daily
suffering.
For me (it meant) eight thousand days of hunger, of systematic beatings,
of hard labor, of solitary confinement, of cells with steel-planked
windows and doors, of solitude.
Source: http://capmag.com/articlePrint.asp?ID=625
Mental torture and disease
are to break Cuba's best-known civil rights activist
Dr. Biscet is terrorised in the high security prison "Kilo 8"
Havana/Frankfurt/M. - 14 January 2004. The International Society for
Human rights re****ts that Cuba's best-known political prisoner, the
civil rights activist Dr Oscar Elias Biscet, is systematically
terrorised in the high security prison "Kilo 8". Biscet was transferred
to the high security prison near Havana in mid-November. He had to live
through a three-week special punishment in a subterranean dark cell
under inhuman conditions.
Source: http://www.ishr.org/press/pr2004/jan04/040114cuba.htm
UNHCR Re****t 1997.
Concluding observations of the Committee against Torture : Cuba. 21/11/97.
A/53/44,paras.101-118. (Concluding Observations/Comments)
Recommendations
118. The Committee recommends that the following actions be taken by the
State Party:
(a) The criminalization of torture, as defined in the Convention, by the
creation of a specific crime or crimes giving effect to every aspect of
it;
(b) The establishment of a transparent permanent procedure for receiving
complaints about torture and other inhuman and degrading treatment or
punishment, the prompt examination of such complaints and bringing to
justice those responsible;
(c) The incor****ation into the law of the right of the suspect or
detainee to silence at all stages of investigation;
(d) The establishment of a system of recurrent review of prisons as
required by article 11 of the Convention with a view to improving
conditions in prisons;
(e) Revision of the rules to the organization of the judicial system in
accordance with international instruments on the subject, namely the
United Nations guidelines on the independence of the judiciary;
(f) The setting up of a comprehensive programme, which should be kept
under constant review, for educating and training law enforcement
personnel, medical personnel, public officials and all those involved in
the interrogation, custody or treatment of any person arrested, detained
or imprisoned;
(g) The establishment of a central register containing adequate
statistical data about complaints of torture and other inhuman or
degrading treatment or punishment, investigation of such complaints, the
time within which the investigation is conducted and any prosecution
mounted thereafter and its outcome;
(h) The establishment of a compensation fund for the compensation of the
victims of torture and other prohibited treatment;
(i) Allowing into the country human rights NGOs and cooperating with
them in the identification of cases of torture and other inhuman and
degrading treatment;
(j) Urgently addressing complaints about torture and other cruel,
inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment raised in NGO re****ts and
the re****ts of the Special Rap****teurs; taking such action as the
obligations of the State party under the Convention warrant; and
re****ting to the Committee the outcome of such investigations and any
action taken in the next periodic re****t.
Source:
http://www.unhchr.ch/tbs/doc.nsf/(Symbol)/A.53.44,paras.101-118.En?Opendo***ent
http://www.cubaverdad.net/torture_in_cuba.htm
http://www.cubaverdad.net/cuba_prison_system.htm
http://www.cubaverdad.net/torture_in_cuba.htm
Manuel Vazquez ****tal, 53, a poet and writer for the government-run
cultural press for a decade, during which he won three official prizes
before being purged, is described by the Le Monde journalist who talked
to him as having the face of a man who has "passed through hell." That
hell has a name: the notorious prison of Boniato, not far from Santiago
de Cuba--it is the same, dilapidated 60-year-old prison in which Castro
himself was incarcerated after his famous 1953 attack on the Moncada
barracks. Vazquez ****tal compares his 15 months in Boniato prison as
"like living in a barracks latrine, or a pigsty"--subhuman conditions,
inedible rotten food, water-logged cells in which the numerous leaks are
never repaired and the floors are covered in the rancid, infectious
liquid overflow from other cells. Three months of his sentence were
spent in total, terrifying isolation."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/14358
>>>> Amnesty International believes that the unilateral US embargo against
>>>> Cuba contributes to the undermining of key civil and political rights
in
>>>> the country.
>>>> On these grounds, Amnesty International calls for its immediate
lifting..
>>> Thanks for confirming AI's condemnation (snip)
>> they condemn the torture you sup****t Dan.
>>
> [snip]
>
> Very evasive, (snip)
Nope.
A fact exposing your lies and innuendo..
What desperate Dan snipped as it exposes his lies:
Cuba: Two years after crackdown, prisoners confined to tiny cells and
beaten
Cuban prisoners of conscience, arrested in the crackdown two years ago
today (18 March) have been beaten by guards while handcuffed and kept in
tiny "punishment cells" infested with rats and cockroaches, according to
a new re****t launched by Amnesty International today in Madrid.
Prison guards re****tedly stamped on the neck of Juan Carlos Herrera
Acosta, causing him to pass out during a beating last November while he
was handcuffed.
Another man, Luis Enrique Ferrer Garcia, was re****tedly stripped and
beaten by guards during an assault at the Youth Prison of Santa Clara
last October. He is serving a sentence of 28 years.
The 71 men, aged 26 to 63, were arrested for ?offences? such as
publi****ng critical articles or communicating with human rights groups.
Amnesty International believes they were imprisoned for peacefully
expressing their beliefs and opinions and calls on the Cuban government
to immediately and unconditionally release all of them.
Amnesty International UK Campaigns Director Stephen Bowen said:
"Conditions for some of these prisoners are inhumane, confining them for
months to tiny, filthy cells with no water or natural light. Some are
not permitted to wear any clothes and are denied bedding.
"And yet all you have to do in Cuba to be imprisoned for months or even
years is to disagree with the authorities.
"The Cuban government must release these prisoners immediately and
unconditionally."
Normando Hernandez Gonzalez was held in a punishment cell for four
months as a punitive measure after ending a 17-day hunger strike to
protest against his transfer to Kilo 5 ˝ Prison, where he was held with
common criminals. During 2004, at least nine prisoners were re****tedly
held continuously in walled-in punishment cells.
Such cells are said to be very small (2 x 1 m) with no natural light and
no furniture. The prisoners are not allowed out, to receive visitors or
to exercise and sometimes are not permitted to wear any clothing nor
given any bedding.
The conditions under which the nine Cuban prisoners are re****ted to have
been held, amount to cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment.
Some prisoners of conscience and their relatives have also suffered the
suspension of visits, correspondence and telephone communications for an
undetermined period of time when prisoners? relatives have made
statements in the local or international press or to human rights
organizations regarding the treatment of their relative in detention.
During 2004 and early 2005 a total of 19 prisoners of conscience were
released, 14 of whom were granted ?conditional release? permitting them
to carry out the rest of their sentences outside prison for health
reasons, in the knowledge they could be detained again.
Amnesty International reiterates its calls on the Cuban government to:
* Order the immediate and unconditional release of all prisoners of
conscience
* Ensure that an independent and impartial inquiry is held into
allegations of ill-treatment by prison guards and, that the officials
implicated in these allegations are immediately suspended from duty and
those responsible brought to justice
* Suspend Law 88 and other similar legislation that facilitates the
imprisonment of Cuban citizens by unlawfully restricting the exercise of
their fundamental freedoms
* Comply with international human rights standards for the
treatment of prisoners
* Ratify both the International Covenant on Civil and Political
Rights and the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural
Rights.
Amnesty International believes that the unilateral US embargo against
Cuba contributes to the undermining of key civil and political rights in
the country.
On these grounds, Amnesty International calls for its immediate lifting.
The organisation also calls on the Cuban government to stop using the
embargo as a pretext to violate the human rights of the Cuban people.
Background
Most of the dissidents arrested during the 2003 crackdown were charged
with offences carrying higher penalties under Article 91 of the Penal
Code or Law 88.
Article 91 provides sentences of 10 to 20 years or death for anyone who
?in the interest of a foreign state, carries out an act which has the
objective of harming the independence of the Cuban state or its
territorial integrity?.
Law 88, provides lengthy prison terms for those found guilty of
sup****ting United States policy on Cuba aimed at "disrupting internal
order, destabilizing the country and destroying the Socialist State and
the independence of Cuba".
Source: http://www.amnesty.org.uk/news/press/15999.shtml
Cuba: Fear for safety / Fear of torture / Intimidation / Harassment
PUBLIC
AI Index: AMR 25/002/2006
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR250022006?open&of=ENG-346
According to re****ts, days before Ahmed Rodríguez Albacia's arrest, he,
his family and several dissidents who were gathered at his house were
subjected to so-called "acts of repudiation" ("acto de repudio"),
demonstrations of government sup****ters outside the homes of dissidents
and activists, which are
often orchestrated by the authorities. Amnesty International believes
that these "acts of repudiation" could amount to psychological torture.
Source:
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR250032006?open&of=ENG-316
and the links at:
http://www.cubaverdad.net/links_to_human_rights_re****ts.htm
also see:
http://www.cubaverdad.net/cuba_prison_system.htm
http://www.cubaverdad.net/torture_in_cuba.htm
>>>> Yes a misquote. AI never asked for an immediate and unconditional end
to
>>>> the trade sanctions.
>>> [snip]
>>> Do you even read your own postings, idiot???
>> (snip)
>>
>> Yes.
>> Nowhere it asked for an "immediate and unconditional" end to the trade
>> sanctions as you falsely claimed, Dan. The quote above is clear.
>
> Indeed. Here it is again (your posting):
Thanks for admitting you lied.
(snip)
> "On these grounds, Amnesty International calls for its immediate
> lifting."
>
> Notwithstanding your hysterical screams of denial
(snip)
No need for scream son my part comrade Dan.
If Amnesty International wants to say they want something "immediate and
unconditional" they do say so.
When they chose not to do so it is for a reason.
Like here:
Quote:
"in 1.
"On the basis of the available information, therefore, Amnesty
International considers the 75 dissidents to be prisoners of
conscience(2) and calls for their immediate and unconditional
release."
In 8.1
" to immediately and unconditionally release the 15 prisoners
previously named by Amnesty International as prisoners of conscience.
" to immediately and unconditionally release anyone else who is
detained or imprisoned solely for having peacefully exercised their
rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly."
en of quote
here they felt they had to say "immediate and unconditional".
In the other re****t they clearly felt they didn't.
Anyway: your abuse of snippets from Amnesty in hypocrite to the hilt.
You reject 95% of what they demand for Cuba: respect of human rights,
free and fair elections, freedom of speech, immediate and unconditional
release of political prisoners, ....
I sup****t all that.
If all demands of AI are met then the basis for the trade sanctions
falls away and they will end.
I sup****t the complete package of demands of AI and want them realized
"immediately and unconditionally".
You want that all the abuses they condemn continue Mr. Hypocrite Liar.
But thanks for confirming you sup****t torture, murder, human rights
abuses, politicide, democide, ...
That is all just a "Sunday's picnic" to you.
I am glad you don't live in my neighborhood.
as I said comrade Dan: whenever you post your lies about me I post the
truth about you.
You are right to understand that your record of lies, innuendo, insults
and sup****t of human rights abuses discredits you.
All shame you brought on yourself by your attitude and actions.
And the exposure of the "lobbyist" lie.
Your abuse of misquotes has been exposed over and over again Mr. serial
Liar.
When you tried to come up with your own new version of the lie
you also fell flat on your face , no?
Remember when you claimed I had been "lobbying" people In Geneva while
your pal "cuba libre" that stalked me then showed from an IP that I was
in Santiago de Cuba at the time.
Dan's other exposed false claim:
"Taking a little break from arm-twisting in Geneva, Mr. Lobbyist?"
Link:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/b6375f9783e47aee?q=g:thl174670614d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8
A real loser you are.
Below you will find what is behind Dan Christensen's slanderous
campaign: facts he can't deny.
- Frustration
I exposed Dan Christensen as a fraud in this group years ago when I blew
his "cover". In SCC he tried to ****tray himself as an "independent
interested party" with no political agenda.
When I came across a blatantly different reply to a similar question in
a Stalinist e-group to which I had been invited I posted it to show his
lying hypocrisy.
Since then he has been pissed as hell as it undermined his lying
propaganda effort to mislead "those in the background" (his own words,
those that didn't have "local knowledge". He himself admitted in the
same e-group that propagandist like him can never "convince" those with
"local knowledge".
In frequent exchanges he got some mad he often forgot to keep up the
presence and made him show his hand and true nature:
Quote:
"In my opinion the advances made by the Revolution are morally well
worth fighting for and justify the use of these extraordinary
measures.
In this case, the ends do indeed justify the means.
......................................
These measures, however, would NOT be morally justified in propping
less
worthy regimes in the region -- the USA and its vassal states in the
Caribbean and Latin America come immediately to mind."
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=tirG3.176162%245r2.278940%40tor-nn1.netcom.ca
"It is wrong to think that a particular end justifies EVERY means. At
this time, for example, it would be wrong of the Cuban government to
send death squads after their opponents as happens in Mexico and
Colombia. Again, the actions of the Cuban government in detaining
these
so-called dissidents seem quite mild in comparison and are morally
justified under the cir***stances."
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=txMG3.176443%245r2.284921%40tor-nn1.netcom.ca
That meant he was exposed a the hypocrite liar he is. It showed that the
false claims he made about others (sup****t of genocide, torture, abuses,
......................)in fact only applied to him.
I have also frequently exposed his lies about facts and people in SCC.
"It is clear from Smith's article here (and his website, CIP Online)
that he does, in fact, sup****t an immediate and unconditional lifting
of your beloved embargo."
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/3f1fe3a55c12d7d7?dmode=source&hl=en
HIS own words:
'We should reduce tensions, not aggravate it, making it clear to the
Cuban
government that we do not have hostile intentions toward them,'' Smith
said
during a 40-minute speech at a conference titled Cuba and the United
States:
Relations in Permanent Conflict, Causes, Effects and Solutions.
''I did not say lift the embargo without conditions,'' he said.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/cuba/12157593.htm
You can enter after a free registration.
Permanent copy in the Cubaverdad archive:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/16823
Then there is the issue of his lying website: I had pages removed (for
violations of law, slander, ...), have shamed him in to changing it on
various occasions (adding links that would then expose his lies, remove
lying caption from pictures, ...)and have in general exposed the lies on
it (on Amnesty International for example)
What Dan claimed on his website (the misquote):
"Today, for the first time, Amnesty International has explicitly
denounced the US embargo on Cuba in humanitarian terms, and made clear
its sup****t for the immediate and unconditional lifting of these cruel
sanctions"
http://members.allstream.net/~dchris/CubaFAQ215.html
Link to the "re****t": (the one Dan didn't give until I shamed him in
to it)
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR250172003?open&of=ENG-CUB
where the only thing Amnesty international asks for "immediately and
unconditionally" is the release of political prisoners.
Quote:
"in 1.
"On the basis of the available information, therefore, Amnesty
International considers the 75 dissidents to be prisoners of
conscience(2) and calls for their immediate and unconditional
release."
In 8.1
" to immediately and unconditionally release the 15 prisoners
previously named by Amnesty International as prisoners of conscience.
" to immediately and unconditionally release anyone else who is
detained or imprisoned solely for having peacefully exercised their
rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly."
en of quote
- Dogmatic hatred.
Dan Christensen is a hard-line Stalinist. His first steps in SCC were to
defend Stalin and in other forums he has praised "workers democracy"
under Stalin.
He has admitted that he is ready to fight to the last Cuban (from his
comfortable armchair in Canada) for his cause.
By posting the re****ts from the international press, human rights
organizations and Cuban independent journalists I have exposed his
propaganda as a lie. That makes the man wild with rage.
As he like to see himself as the "victim" (he once claimed he was being
censored in SCC) he therefore lashes out at people claiming that those
that contradict him are "CIA" agents (as if the CIA would care about a
third rate liar as Dan) and professional "lobbyists" probably to make
himself feel that he is "im****tant" and to explain away his complete
propaganda failure (****traying himself as "overcome by unsurmountable
institutional odds").
- Personal hate and the "rat pack"
Dan has suffered the trauma of having part of his website remove after
a long battle over the personal attacks and falsifications he had posted
there.
The frequent exposures of his lies and hypocrisy only fueled the
personal hatred.
Dan ganged up with various other propagandists that people that have
been attacked by them refer to as the "rat pack". I have been the target
of the lies and slanderous insults of this "rat pack".
They specialize in online slander (from posting private information,
attacking their business or businesses they are associated with,
inciting others to harass people, over accusing people of being "CIA
agents" or "lobbyists" to the worst things one can imagine)and direct
harassment (phone calls, letters, letters with razor blade or white
powder, loitering in front of people's houses,.. up to death threats in
France).
All they succeeded in doing was to dramatically increase traffic to a
website I participate in ( www.cubaverdad.net )and to suffer the
consequences of their slander.
Dan Christensen had part of his website removed. The Centre Che in
France had their complete website removed and their "secretary" known
here as "cubalibre" went to jail for 6 months for a whole series of
abuses. A Spanish "subsidiary" of the rat pack still has a surprise
coming.
All because of their lies were exposed.
But then in the end this is what it boils down to:
those that don't have rational arguments find themselves exposed as the
liars they are. When that happens all they have left are the old slander
tactics: they attack the people that expose their lies in the hope that
they can intimidate them.
If Dan Christensen felt he had any chance to convince people directly he
would try to do so by posting facts and arguing facts.
He is reduced to snipping, posting the same snippets over and over
again, lies and slander.
As long as he and the rest of the "rat pack" (and their hangers on) are
reduced to that they expose" their own failure.
Fine by me.
PL
"The Cuban government is based on lies and cheap propaganda. That is why
it is afraid of words and the truth."
Raul Rivero, April 2006, University of Sevilla, Spain
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