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Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?

by Dan Christensen <dchris@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 10, 2008 at 11:28 AM

On May 10, 4:01 am, PL <pl.nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

[snipping ****tions of PL's posting already debunked, or too lame to
bother with]

> There are no "genocidal trade sanctions" Mr. serial Liar.

Like most old Nazis, it seems our Mr. Lobbyist here is in denial.


> That lie you have yourself exposed by failing to post even ONE quote
> from a reputable international organization referring to them as such.
>

The facts in this case have been thoroughly do***ented by Amnesty
International, Human Rights Watch and even the Catholic Church. And
while you may take some comfort in the fact that, for murky political
reasons, you and your man, Dubya, have yet to be arrested for these
crimes, under Article 2c of the UN Genocide Convention, your beloved
embargo is indeed a form of genocide. (See the recent thread, "PL
likely complicit in massive human rights abuses.")


> The Castro regime on the other hand has been on Genocide Watch's list
> for years.
>
[snip]

Did you forget about GW's recent climb-down in this regard, Mr.
Lobbyist?  A major setback for all you embargo-Nazis, wasn't it?

Some time ago, I wrote to GW president, Gregory Stanton, pointing out
to him that no mainstream human rights group like Amnesty
International or Human Rights Watch will sup****t the outrageous claims
at his website of some 75,000 deaths in Cuba. He could not explain
this, and simply referred me to their only source on Cuba -- a book by
US-based academic, Rudy Rummell. Apparently GW has never actually
investigated anything at all to do with Cuba! There isn't a single
article devoted to Cuba at their website -- only a large table listing
dozens of countries, perhaps for the purpose of impressing potential
donors, with a one-liner about Cuba.

Anyway, some time late in 2005, they withdrew their outrageous claim.
I won't claim responsibility, but now they wisely decline to give any
specific figure at all -- progress of a sort, I guess.

Similarly the same year, the London-based International Centre for
Prison Studies, year also backed down on their outrageous claims about
Cuba. Now, they list the USA as having the highest incarceration rate
in the world, with Cuba a distant 8th. Must be frustrating as hell,
eh, Mr. Lobbyist?


Here is what HRW, as long ago as 1989, had to say about the
exaggerated claims of your political masters in  Miami and Wa****ngton:

"...[T]he Commission's initial decision to review human rights in Cuba
was due in large part to exaggerated U.S. charges of ongoing political
executions, disappearances and torture... [T]he U.N. delegation to
Cuba found no evidence to sup****t those allegations."
http://www.hrw.org/re****ts/1989/WR89/Cuba.htm


> > I didn't see anything there about lifting the US embargo. What gives,
> > Mr. Lobbyist? This is by far the worst violation of human rights in
> > Cuba
>
> Nope.

More Nazi denials!


> > Under the
> > terms of Article 2c of the UN Genocide Convention, your beloved
> > embargo can even be seen as a form of the genocide.
>
> (snip)
>
> Nope it can't as there is no intent to kill anyone as shown wo often.

The intent to kill was clear right from the start in 1962, up to the
current day. For details, references, etc. see featured article, "Is
the US embargo a form of genocide?" at my website.


> The US supplies about a third of the food that Cubans receive in their
> rationing.

According to official data for 2006, total US food ex****ts amounted to
no more than about 8 cents worth of food per Cuban per day. Even at
twice this amount, it would not be enough to get you and your
political masters off the hook for what amounts to genocide!

Again, as Amnesty International has re****ted, your beloved embargo is
being used "to harm the most vulnerable members of [Cuban]
society" (AI website) -- what you call "keeping the pressure on,"
right, Mr. Lobbyist?

Dan
Visit my CUBA: Issues & Answers website at
http://www.netcom.ca/~dchris/CubaFAQ.html
 




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PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-09 10:32:22 
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Fred <fred@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-09 07:24:35 
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PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-09 17:48:59 
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Fred <fred@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-09 12:58:47 
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PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-10 09:49:50 
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Fred <fred@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-10 10:12:32 
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"MasterChief" &  2008-05-15 17:56:26 
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Fred <fred@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-15 20:56:12 
Re: Please join the world in a petition for the freedom of polit
"MasterChief" &  2008-05-15 22:39:29 
What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-09 12:52:34 
Re: Please join the world in a petition for the freedom of polit
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-10 10:01:10 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-10 11:28:15 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
"PL" <pl.nos  2008-05-13 15:48:13 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-13 19:23:31 
Re: Please join the world in a petition for the freedom of polit
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-14 15:34:41 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-15 09:47:52 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions
" krp" <krp2  2008-05-15 19:22:47 
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Fred <fred@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-15 15:33:05 
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" krp" <krp2  2008-05-16 02:24:10 
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Fred <fred@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-16 07:01:19 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
" krp" <krp2  2008-05-16 11:21:00 
Re: Please join the world in a petition for the freedom of polit
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-16 11:49:03 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-16 10:00:46 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
"PL" <pl.nos  2008-05-17 13:07:01 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-17 08:28:16 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-17 21:52:19 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-17 21:38:56 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-18 13:56:46 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-05-18 10:29:54 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-05-18 10:39:15 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 07:20:43 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-05-18 10:57:15 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 07:20:39 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-18 12:16:22 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 07:20:55 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-18 12:38:07 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 07:20:59 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-18 13:02:34 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 07:21:03 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-05-25 11:24:18 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-05-25 11:44:13 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
mark.inorbit@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-30 05:47:34 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-06-01 09:24:12 

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