On May 13, 7:37=A0am, PL <pl.nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
[snipping ****tions of PL's posting already debunked here, or too lame
to bother with]
> >>> The Empire uber alles, right, Mr. Lobbyist?
> >> I see you don't dare to address the issue.
>
> > You mean the issue of the Bush regime rejecting even the most right-
> > wing dissidents' pleas to loosen the embargo? (snip)
>
> address the issue comrade Dan:
[snip]
Quit trying to change the subject and address the fact that even the
most right-wing of your di$$ident pals has now called for the embargo
to be loosened. We know that the majority of them have long opposed
your beloved embargo. (It really is hard to get good help these days,
isn't it, Mr. Lobbyist?) Clearly, there is absolutely no moral basis
to these cruel sanctions of yours.
> > You are the one who actively promotes genocide against the Cuban
> > people (snip)
>
What Mr. Lobbyist snipped for obvious reasons:
You are the one who actively promotes genocide against the Cuban
people -- sanctions that even Amnesty International says are "used to
harm the most vulnerable members of [Cuban] society." (AI website)
> false and you are going to expose your own lies again by failing to post
> any quote from any reputable international organizations referring to
> the trade sanctions as "genocide".
Already debunked here, but thanks to confirming that you think nothing
of sanctions that, as AI re****ted, "are used to harm the most
vulnerable members of society." Whatever it takes, right, Mr.
Lobbyist?
> Castro is the one on Genocide Watch's list.
Did you forget about GW's recent climb-down in this regard, Mr.
Lobbyist? A major setback for all you embargo-Nazis, wasn't it?
Some time ago, I wrote to GW president, Gregory Stanton, pointing out
to him that no mainstream human rights group like Amnesty
International or Human Rights Watch will sup****t the outrageous claims
at his website of some 75,000 deaths in Cuba. He could not explain
this, and simply referred me to their only source on Cuba -- a book by
US-based academic, Rudy Rummell. Apparently GW has never actually
investigated anything at all to do with Cuba! There isn't a single
article devoted to Cuba at their website -- only a large table listing
dozens of countries, perhaps for the purpose of impressing potential
donors, with a one-liner about Cuba.
Anyway, some time late in 2005, they withdrew their outrageous claim.
I won't claim responsibility, but now they wisely decline to give any
specific figure at all -- progress of a sort, I guess.
Similarly the same year, the London-based International Centre for
Prison Studies, year also backed down on their outrageous claims about
Cuba. Now, they list the USA as having the highest incarceration rate
in the world, with Cuba a distant 8th. Must be frustrating as hell,
eh, Mr. Lobbyist?
Here is what HRW, as long ago as 1989, had to say about the
exaggerated claims of your political masters in Miami and Wa****ngton:
"...[T]he Commission's initial decision to review human rights in Cuba
was due in large part to exaggerated U.S. charges of ongoing political
executions, disappearances and torture... [T]he U.N. delegation to
Cuba found no evidence to sup****t those allegations."
http://www.hrw.org/re****ts/1989/WR89/Cuba.htm
> The US is providing about third of the basic foodstuffs Cubans receive
> in the rationing.
>
According to official US data for 2006, US food ex****ts to to Cuba
amounted to no more than about 8 cents worth of food per day per
Cuban. Even at twice this amount, it would not be enough to get you
off the hook for what amounts to genocide!
No one is buying into your rationalizations, Mr. Lobbyist. For 16
years in a row now, the UN General Assembly has voted to condemn these
cruel sanctions that Amnesty International has said are "used to harm
the most vulnerable members of [Cuban] society." (You must be proud to
see all your hard finally work paying off!)
> > And apparently =A0you have no qualms about the torture =A0and murder
of
> > opponents(snip)
>
What Mr. Lobbyist snipped for obvious reasons:
And apparently you have no qualms about the torture and murder of
opponents of the Bush regime in secret dungeons around the world. (AI
website) Time and again, you have refused to even comment on -- never
mind condemn -- these crimes!
> another lie of yours that you try to hide behind the innuendo words
> "apparently" as you know you can't back any of it up
[snip]
You yourself have just done so again with your refusal here to even
comment on -- never mind actually condemn! -- these crimes of your
political masters.
> >> "Today, for the first time, Amnesty International has explicitly
> >> denounced the US embargo on Cuba in humanitarian terms, and made
clear
> >> its sup****t for the immediate and unconditional lifting of these
cruel
> >> sanctions"http://members.allstream.net/~dchris/CubaFAQ215.html
>
> >> Link to the "re****t": (the one Dan didn't give until I shamed him in
> >> to
it)http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR250172003?open&of=3DEN=
G-CUB
>
> > [snip]
>
> > That was 5 years ago.
>
> (snip)
>
What Mr. Lobbyist snipped for obvious reasons:
"Amnesty International has called for the US embargo against Cuba to
be lifted, as it is highly detrimental to Cubans' enjoyment of a range
of economic, social and cultural rights, such as the right to food,
health and sanitation - particularly affecting the weakest and most
vulnerable members of the population. According to UNICEF, the
availability of medicines and basic medical materials has decreased in
Cuba as a consequence of the US embargo against the island." (AI
website)
> an never Amnesty asked for the "immediate and unconditional" end to the
> trade sanctions comrade Dan.
[snip]
See what I mean, folks? Like an old Nazi, our Mr. Lobbyist is in
complete denial! Even when the proof is before him in black and white!
Again, with his enthusiasm shown here for genocidal trade sanctions
and his tacit sup****t of murder and torture -- whatever it takes! --
it is easy to imagine the reign of terror he would unleash on the
Cuban people if he ever had the chance again.
Dan
Visit my CUBA: Issues & Answers website at
http://www.netcom.ca/~dchris/Cuba=
FAQ.html
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