chris wrote:
> On 15 mei, 18:47, Dan Christensen <dch...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On May 14, 9:34 am, PL <pl.nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> (cut)
>>> The Castro regime on the other hand has been on Genocide Watch's list
>>> for years.
>>>
see:http://www.genocidewatch.org/images/GenocidesandPoliticidessince1945w...
>> Already debunked here.
>
> are you claiming Cuba isn't on the list as you recently did on another
> occasion?
>
>>> Your activities as a lying pro-castro lobbyist are well do***ented in
SCC.
>> Oh, really? We know that we you are on record actually bragging about
>> your lobbying exploits (see "PL = Paid Lobbyist?"),
>
> actually Mr. Christensen your inability to post anything to back up
> any of the claims (see the golf thing), the fact that part of it was
> exposed a self-serving lie (the nature of the Club Med hotel in
> Varadero) and the attempt to use partial snippings from a message
> that said the opposite of what you claimed to mislead people (the
> "lobby" sarcastic remarks with the denial of the fact in front) has
> shown that this is just a slanderous lie that you malignously spread
> about PL
>
>> but where is your
>> proof I have been paid to "lobby" anyone?
>
> can you tell me where PL has ever claimed that you were being paid for
> the lobbying you do?
> I can't and I am sure he never has.
You are right, I never have.
I actually missed this part of his lying innuendo
> This is just another dumb ploy of yours to mislead people about the
> real issue.
> That issue I raised and I have stated that you are the one that acts
> more like a lobbyist than PL whom you falsely and libellously accuse
> of these activities.
> You are a shameless liar Mr. Christensen falsely claiming people would
> have said something.
> It just shows how low you have sunk.
> You admitted to actvely seeking out and contacting people you have
> never met but that have spoken on Cuba. You then try to do what you do
> here: mislead them about Cuba. That is sleezy lobbying in my eyes.
It seems Dan is as bad in convincing people outside this group as he is
here.
All he ever could come up with from his lobbying efforts were a bunch of
lies as he couldn't get anyone to revise their views.
> By the way: I see you put quotes around the word "lobby" just as PL
> did.
> Tell me why that should work for your whgen you have always claimed it
> meant nothing when PL did it.
> You are such a hypocrite man Mr. Christensen
you are right there.
I can't understand to act as moronically as he did.
> and one totally obssed
> with and therfore controlled by PL.
I wouldn't even want to control him.
>>>>>>> The US supplies about a third of the food that Cubans receive in
their
>>>>>>> rationing.
>>>>>> According to official data for 2006, total US food ex****ts amounted
to
>>>>>> no more than about 8 cents per Cuban per day.
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>> and that according to Cuban data amounted to over one third of the
basic
>>>>> foodstuffs Cubans get, no?
>>>> No matter how you slice it,
>>> (snip)
>> What Mr. Lobbyist snipped for obvious reasons:
>>
>> No matter how you slice it, Mr. Lobbyist, eight cents worth of food
>> per day does not go very far -- certainly not far enough to get you
>> off the hook for what amounts to genocide!
>>
>>> is 1/3 of food Cubans receive through the rationing as your political
>>> masters in Cuba have confirmed and you have duly calculated for us.
>>> "According to Alim****t, in 2006, the total in im****ts and related
costs
>>> paid to U.S. companies exceeded $570.8 million."
>> Consistent with US data, that comes to 14 cents per Cuban per day
>> including "related costs."
> (cut)
>
> actually it doesn't is consistent at all Mr. Christensen.
> For it to be consistent there shoul be 6/8= 75% costs on the delivery
> of food to Cuba.
> It is absurd to suggest that.
actually you are of course right.
"According to Alim****t, in 2006, the total in im****ts and related
costs paid to U.S. companies exceeded $570.8 million. These transactions,
taking place under restricted conditions, represented a significant
increase in financing costs for the island, estimated at some $21.8
million.
And it is in the interest of guaranteeing food for Cuba's 11 million
people that ALIM****T must im****t some $1.6 billion dollars in food,
for an increase of $600 million over the last four years, with a
tendency to double.
"Currently, Cuba im****ts some 7.8 million tons of foodstuffs. Of that,
95% is allocated for the family basket of goods guaranteed to every
Cuban household (a rationed distribution of products such as rice,
legumes, sugar, coffee, milk, meats, etc.) by the state"
"In opening the recent round of negotiations, Alvarez noted that from
the start of this one-way trade, ALIM****T has made contact with more
than 4,351 companies in 45 U.S. states, and has signed agreements worth
$2.431 billion."
http://www.granma.cu/ingles/2007/mayo/juev31/agreements-100-million-purchases.html
PL


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