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Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?

by chris <christiane.stockman@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 25, 2008 at 11:24 AM

On 18 mei, 22:02, Dan Christensen <dch...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 18, 1:39 pm, chris <christiane.stock...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > > No matter how you slice it, Mr. Lobbyist, eight cents worth of food
> > > per day does not go very far
>
> > indeed, that plus the rest of the food rationing doesn't go very far,
> > 8 to 10 days I read last.
>
> Perhaps you don't know, but the rationing system is not the only
> source of food for Cubans. In fact, they get most of their food from
> other public and private markets.

and I have also noticed that you have been challenged by PL to post a
budget for a family of 4 that would show that that isn't a problem.
I have noticed that you never came up with anything.
Why is that Mr. Christensen? Wouldn't a well-founded budget prove you
case?
Don't you think that it is clear to allof us in SCC that the only
reason why you did not come up with a budget is because you know that
it in no way will sup****t the false impression you try to create here?
From a source like IPS I saw a quote that a Cuban family needs 7 times
what they make to make ends meet.
Other sources say 4 times.
We all know why you can't come up with a budget Mr. Christensen.
You aren't fooling anyone. You are just discrediting yourself even
further by showing how hypocrite and callous you can be.

> > > -- certainly not far enough to get you
> > > off the hook for what amounts to genocide!
>
> > > As for the rest of PL's pathetic posting, readers who want to know
> > > more him should the recent threads exposing him for what he really
> > > is:
>
> > > "PL = Paid Lobbyist?"
> > > "PL's supposed 'local knowledge' a sham"
> > > "PL likely complicit in massive human rights abuses"
>
> > (cut)
>
> > actually these were threads where you were exposed as posting
> > slanderous lies about PL.
>
> Readers can judge for themselves.

Indeed Mr. Christensen.
The result is that anyone that does investigates the truth can only
reach the conclusion that you are a slanderous liar.

> > We have been over this various times Mr. Christensen and you have had
> > to admit that you could not come up with anything to back up some of
> > your claims (on the golfing),
>
> Again, he has changed is ID several times over the years.

In the relevant period all can be found under PL.
The no.spam addition doesn't matter.

> He may even
> have deleted the posting about golfing.

more innuendo that you of course can't back up by gaps in thtraeds.
Note that people can remove their own posts only in Google.
Not those of others.
That means that it is highly unlikely that a person would be able to
remove all refernecs to the golf thing.
PL could for example never remove the posts in which you, or anyone
else, replied and where the text was quoted;
If you truly ever had seen a post like that you would be able to come
up with something.
Another facts that disproves the innuendo is that there is no
indication PL ever removed any post as the source quotes on your
lobbying lie are still there. That to me suggests that he feels very
fine about having them in here.

You are again desperately trying to escape from the obvious truth Mr.
Christensen: you lied as you know you embellished your own lying story
to make it more racy and juicy.


> But we still have him on
> record bragging of his exploits lobbying politicians over, among other
> things, squash games.

No. Mr. Christensen, the record show he was denying any lobbying
activities and was poking sarcastic fun at and trying to catch others
at their own sick games.

> For obvious reasons, you choose to overlook this
> as some kind of mockery!

Very obvious as unly you I deal in facts and not propaganda from those
that create a reality from their erroneous convictions.

> > others were exposed as plain lies (on
> > the nature of the hotel of Club Med in Varadero)
>
> A posh singles resort, as far as I know.

No, Mr. Christensen, I think you know better.
Singles resorts don't have circus schools for children.
You just painted yourself in to a corner by embelli****ng your lies
that you now are condemened to ridicule and discredit yourself over
and over again by sticking with the lie.

> That certainly has been its
> specialty in the past.

No.
 Varadero always was a family resort.

> Not that it really matters.

Yes it does.
It is an intergral part of your concoted lying story that has been
exposed.
I see why you would try to belittle it's im****tance, but most people
see through your lies.

> What matters is
> that PL refuses to explain what he was doing there with these "Belgian
> ministers" of his.

PL never said he was there with anyone.
People show where PL said he was ever at Varadero with ministers or in
Club Med all together.
Another example of what I am trying to explain to you Mr. Christensen:
as far as PL are concerned you are a compulsive liar.
You just can't stop doing it even in sentences where you desperately
are trying to claw back some credibility.
Do you realy think people are dumb, Dan?
Can't you see how you have a self-destructive nature?
You made the same mistake when trying to convince people that PL had
been lobbying in Geneva.
There one of your team exposed your lies.
With respect to Varadero: PL never said he was at Club Med and the
post he made was made from Belgium.
Again: post your proof that PL ever was in Club Med at Varadero, to
start with, and that he was there with any minister.
This will only result in another lie of yours being exposed.

> Yes, I know, you couldn't care less. Other, more
> open-minded readers may find this quite disturbing, however.

Mr. Christensen: open minded and itelligent readers already know you
are lying and they will see that you lied again in this message.

> > or misquotes
> > (regarding the quotes wher PL used the verb to lobby in a sarcastic
> > way and part of a message stating the opposite of what you claimed it
> > said).
>
> Shame on you, Chris, for buying into PL's never ending stream of lies
> and evasions.

actually you mean "shame on you for not buying in to Dan Christensen's
never ending stream of lies and evasions".
In this message again your lies, both old and new, were exposed.
You can not seriously expect anyone with half a brain to believe any
of your lies after the plain lies, half-truths and false innuendo have
been exposed so often?
Any inteligent man would abandon this course, but I know you can't as
you would see it as losing from and caving in to PL. You seem to be
the person that would continue his self-destructing before caving in
again.

Chris
 




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"MasterChief" &  2008-05-15 17:56:26 
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"MasterChief" &  2008-05-15 22:39:29 
What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-09 12:52:34 
Re: Please join the world in a petition for the freedom of polit
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-10 10:01:10 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-10 11:28:15 
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"PL" <pl.nos  2008-05-13 15:48:13 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-13 19:23:31 
Re: Please join the world in a petition for the freedom of polit
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-14 15:34:41 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-15 09:47:52 
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" krp" <krp2  2008-05-15 19:22:47 
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Fred <fred@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-15 15:33:05 
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" krp" <krp2  2008-05-16 02:24:10 
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Fred <fred@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-16 07:01:19 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
" krp" <krp2  2008-05-16 11:21:00 
Re: Please join the world in a petition for the freedom of polit
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-16 11:49:03 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-16 10:00:46 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
"PL" <pl.nos  2008-05-17 13:07:01 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-17 08:28:16 
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PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-17 21:52:19 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-17 21:38:56 
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PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-18 13:56:46 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-05-18 10:29:54 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-05-18 10:39:15 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 07:20:43 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-05-18 10:57:15 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 07:20:39 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-18 12:16:22 
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PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 07:20:55 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-18 12:38:07 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 07:20:59 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-18 13:02:34 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 07:21:03 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-05-25 11:24:18 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-05-25 11:44:13 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
mark.inorbit@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-30 05:47:34 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-06-01 09:24:12 

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