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Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?

by chris <christiane.stockman@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 25, 2008 at 11:44 AM

Note: my fisrt reply didn't show up so I am trying again.

On 18 mei, 21:38, Dan Christensen <dch...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 18, 1:57 pm, chris <christiane.stock...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> [snipping ****tions of Chris's posting already debunked here, or too
> lame to bother with]
>
> > > > Your activities as a lying pro-castro lobbyist are well do***ented
in SCC.
>
> > > Oh, really? We know that we you  are on record actually bragging
about
> > > your lobbying exploits (see "PL = Paid Lobbyist?"),
>
> > actually Mr. Christensen your inability to post anything to back up
> > any of the claims (see the golf thing), the fact that part of it was
> > exposed a self-serving lie (the nature of the Club Med hotel in
> > Varadero) and the attempt to use partial snippings from a message
> > that said the opposite of what you claimed to mislead people (the
> > "lobby" sarcastic remarks with the denial of the fact in front) has
> > shown that this is just a slanderous lie that you malignously spread
> > about PL
>
> Not my words

Yes your words, Mr. Christensen.
PL has only denied these false accusations.

> PL has painted himself into a corner
(cut)

No, Mr. Christensen, you tried to paint him in to a corner and ended
up exposed as a liar over and over again.


> > > but where is your
> > > proof I have been paid to "lobby" anyone?
>
> > can you tell me where PL has ever claimed that you were being paid for
> > the lobbying you do?
>
> [snip]
>
> He hasn't said so directly

so you admit you lied.
That is a start I guess.

>  he isn't THAT stupid

No, he isn't stupid at all.

> -- but his own
> words imply

"imply" Mr. Christensen? No stae?
You seem to be getting cautious and insucure.

> this (those "Belgian ministers" of his at Club Med, for
> instance). He desperately wants us to believe what a great mover and
> shaker he is on the world stage, hence his boasting of his exploits
> that he has since come to thoroughly regret.

No, Mr. Christensen, quite the contrary.
PL never claimed to be anything else than someone concerned with the
human rights of family, friends and the rest of Cubans.
People like you have been trying to misrepresent him as anything more
(CIA, lobbyist, ...) in your attempt to buld him up in to something he
isn't and never claimed to be to explain your own failure.
People like you that think they are better than others can't accept
being defeated by a regular person posting facts. To explain away your
own ineffectiveness and inneficiency you have to build PL up to
something he isn't in order to explain away your failure to yourself
and others.
You seem to suffer from low self-esteem and try to compensate for
that.

>
> > > No matter how you slice it, Mr. Lobbyist, eight cents worth of food
> > > per day does not go very far -- certainly not far enough to get you
> > > off the hook for what amounts to genocide!
>
> > > > is 1/3 of food Cubans receive through the rationing as your
political
> > > > masters in Cuba have confirmed and you have duly calculated for
us.
>
> > > > "According to Alim****t, in 2006, the total in im****ts and related
costs
> > > > paid to U.S. companies exceeded $570.8 million."
>
> > >  Consistent with US data, that comes to 14 cents per Cuban per day
> > > including "related costs."
>
> > (cut)
>
> > actually it doesn't is consistent at all Mr. Christensen.
> > For it to be consistent there shoul be 6/8= 75% costs on the delivery
> > of food to Cuba.
>
> So, who is "lying":
(snip)

You are.
Tha facts are clear.

Chris
 




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"MasterChief" &  2008-05-15 22:39:29 
What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-09 12:52:34 
Re: Please join the world in a petition for the freedom of polit
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-10 10:01:10 
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Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-10 11:28:15 
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"PL" <pl.nos  2008-05-13 15:48:13 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-13 19:23:31 
Re: Please join the world in a petition for the freedom of polit
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-14 15:34:41 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-15 09:47:52 
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" krp" <krp2  2008-05-15 19:22:47 
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Fred <fred@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-15 15:33:05 
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" krp" <krp2  2008-05-16 02:24:10 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions
Fred <fred@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-16 07:01:19 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
" krp" <krp2  2008-05-16 11:21:00 
Re: Please join the world in a petition for the freedom of polit
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-16 11:49:03 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-16 10:00:46 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
"PL" <pl.nos  2008-05-17 13:07:01 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-17 08:28:16 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-17 21:52:19 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-17 21:38:56 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-18 13:56:46 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-05-18 10:29:54 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-05-18 10:39:15 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 07:20:43 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-05-18 10:57:15 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 07:20:39 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-18 12:16:22 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 07:20:55 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-18 12:38:07 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 07:20:59 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-05-18 13:02:34 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 07:21:03 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sacntions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-05-25 11:24:18 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-05-25 11:44:13 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
mark.inorbit@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-30 05:47:34 
Re: What about a petition against the genocidal trade sanctions?
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-06-01 09:24:12 

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