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Yukon <Loyza3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Feb 13, 10:07 pm, Karel Kriz <ka...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > In article
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> > kujebak <kuje...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indoctrinate_U
> >
> > Generally, I don't use someone else's material to buttress my points.
> > That would be intellectually dishonest. But thsi post is very well
> > written and I think worth reading.
> >
> > ¤ The big problem I have with the reasoning of my conservative
> > friends is they assume that 3either you1re with us or against us.2 In
> > their black and white universe, there are only the good people
> > (conservatives) and the bad people (liberals). There are the people
who
> > love America (Republicans) and the people who hate it (Democrats).
> > Simplistic *****sments like this can be heard on Fox News relentlessly
> > and found on all too many right wing blogs. So now, we have a
> > do***entary that offers the same tired myths. Just what the world
needs.
> > ¤ I teach at Emerson College in Boston and also at the University
of
> > Massachusetts. I1m one of those people who is liberal on some issues,
> > moderate on some, and conservative on a coupleS but in Maloney1s
world,
> > I guess I don1t exist, since evidently an educator must come down on
the
> > side of good (his side) or the side of evil (everyone who doesn1t like
> > President Bush). I doubt he1d believe me, but many of my colleagues
> > don1t toe a rigid 3party line2- and not everyone on the faculty votes
> > for the Democrats. But even if we all did- what would that prove? My
job
> > isn1t to recruit for the Democratic party. My job as a professor of
> > journalism is to teach my students how to do serious analysis of the
> > information they are given, find the stories that deserve to be
covered,
> > get beyond the 3spin,2 and recognize manipulation of facts when they
see
> > it- whether it1s right wing or left wing or whatever.
> > ¤ And speaking of manipulating facts, Maloney and his fellow
> > conservatives like to take the extremes as present them as if they are
> > typical- I don1t know many liberals or moderates at either college
where
> > I teach who think Ward Churchill is the next best thing to sliced
bread,
> > yet Maloney asserts that every liberal professor adores the guy. Truth
> > be told, I know a lot of professors who wouldn1t know Ward Churchill
if
> > they hadn1t seen the right wing TV shows huffing and puffing about
him.
> > But no, he does NOT represent the 3typical2 liberal. I am not sure
there
> > really is a 3typical2 liberal except for the mythic one the right wing
> > loves to attack. Can you say Straw Man argument?
> > ¤ And since Maloney seems to think all of us Blue State educators
> > lack the proper values, may I mention that I used to teach Sunday
> > School, I can quote scripture with the best of them, I have 2
> > step-daughters who served in the military, and I don1t hate America- I
> > just don1t like our current administration and its assault on civil
> > liberties, so I guess I1m a commie in his book. I wonder if he1s ever
> > really talked to some of us allegedly liberal educators. But no, it1s
so
> > much easier to stereotype us.
> > ¤ Yes, some of my colleagues like Chomsky, but some wish he had
> > stuck to linguistics. At the risk of stating the obvious, as
educators,
> > our job is to make students think. So, we have them study and discuss
> > all sorts of theorists. Some of those theorists are from the left, and
> > some are from other ends of the political spectrum. If I ask my
students
> > to read a Marxist critic, am I then guilty of training future
Marxists?
> > Maloney seems to think that even reading from left-wing scholars makes
> > one a traitor-in-waiting. I find it ironic that he seems to want to
> > censor reading lists and political beliefs, all the while claiming
it1s
> > the left who engage in thought control.
> > ¤ I wish he1d come to one of my cl*****. He would see that, like
> > many educators, I insist upon my students looking at both sides of the
> > issues. they are expected to read both left-wing and right-wing
> > publications, along with those generally perceived as objective. How
> > else can they gather the facts if they don1t explore various
viewpoints?
> > Also, when I give my opinion, I let students know it1s my OPINION. If
> > they quote it back to me on a quiz, my eyes will glaze over. I don1t
> > want students to agree with everything I say. I just want them to
> > consider my opinions, as I will consider theirs. Discourse is about
> > respect, wouldn1t you say?
> > ¤ What would make me happy is if my friends on the right would
stop
> > demonizing the campus as a hotbed of radicals and traitors. I am a
media
> > historian and I must tell you this tactic has been used by the right
> > since the turn of the last century. It was dishonest in 1920, and it1s
> > dishonest today. Liberals are not destroying our kids, and
conservatives
> > are not saving them. There are other very real problems with today1s
> > educational system, but blaming it on too many (allegedly) liberal
> > professors is utter nonsense. Based on my 25 years of teaching and
being
> > a guest lecturer in a number of cities, I seriously doubt that most
> > campuses are liberal- some DEPARTMENTS, yes. Entire campuses, not so
> > much.
> > ¤ I am tired of people like Maloney stereotyping and maligning my
> > profession. His evidence is largely anecdotal, and his assertions are
> > based on distorted information. Shame on him for letting his ideology
> > determine the story line of his so-called do***entary.
> > ¤ Š Posted by Donna L. Halper
>
> And the point of this malarkey is what? That Democrats know how to
> write? y
If you didn't get the point from this well reasoned and sober analysis,
I cannot help you...
K
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