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Re: A question about Moravia and the Mongol Invasion.

by KLange@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mar 5, 2008 at 11:22 PM

On Mar 6, 12:11=A0am, "Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >On Mar 2, 10:50 am, o...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> On Mar 1, 12:09 am, KLa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > I read thatMoraviawas affected by the Mongol invasion of 1241-42.
> >> > Even though they were passing through from Poland on the way to
> >> > Hungary, they apparently still did damage. Does anyone know what
were=

> >> > the casualty figures (for lack of a better term) among the
population=
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> >> > and who were brought in to help replenish it?
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> >> FALZA A PODVODY CESKE
HISTORIEhttp://mailman.fsv.cvut.cz/lists/rkz-l/20=
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> >> =B7 To: Multiple recipients of list RKZ-L <rk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> =B7 Subject: FALZA A PODVODY CESKE HISTORIE
> >> =B7 From: "Jaroslav Gagan" <ga...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> =B7 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 07:17:27 +0100
> >> =B7 Reply-To: rk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> Dobry den.
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> >> ****ladatelstvi AKROPLIS vydalo knihu "Falza a podvody ceske historie"
> >> (Praha 2001, 1. vydani, 184 stran), kterou napsali "nasi predni
> >> historikove" - ucitele z Filozoficke fakulty University Karlovy.
> >> Kniha ma 16 kapitol, z nich tri se venuji Rukopisum.
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> >> Prof. Dr. Jaroslav Cechura, DrSc. napsal clanek "O podivnem
> >> vitezstvi
> >> nad Mongoly" (s. 88-95), kde s odvolanim na "novejsi studium otazky"
> >> uvadi, ze pobyt Mongolu na Morave byl vpravde epizodicky, trval snad
> >> tyden... U prilezitosti 600. vyroci vpadu Tataru na Moravu podnikl
> >> moravsky historiograf Antonin Bocek pokus ukazat, jake epochalni
> >> udalosti
> >> se tehdy staly na jeho rodne a milovane Morave. Autor napsal, ze
> >> Bockovi
> >> neveril Fr. Palacky ani dalsi vzdelani muzove 19. stoleti (panu
> >> prof. Cechurovi bych do****ucil prohlednout Palackeho Dejiny narodu
> >> ceskeho v Cechach a v Morave - rok 1241: "neni pochyby, ze bitva u
> >> Olomouce stala se ku konci mesice cervna"). Klicovy dokument Bockuv -
> >> Pamet pribyslavska je podle prof. Cechury nes****e falzum 19.
> >> stoleti.
> >> Skody, ktere mely ucinit Mongolove na Morave roku 1241, pochazeji z
> >> Bockovy dilny, prip. od padelatelu slavnych Rukopisu.
> >> O.K.
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> >Could you maybe post a English translation please?
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> The gentleman has already been reminded that there is
> well established netiquette rule by which one should
> respond to English language posts in English. He responded
> to that with childishly facetious and impertinent comments.
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> Nevertheless, the comments in his original post may be relevant.
> The jest of it was that there are some real indications that
> the damage caused by Mongols in 1241 was basically a myth
> based on texts of well known forged manuscripts.
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True, I believe that the damage the Mongols did may well have been
exageratted. After all, they were basically just passing through.
However, I don't think Moravia got off unaffected.
 




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A question about Moravia and the Mongol Invasion.
KLange@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-29 21:09:10 
Re: A question about Moravia and the Mongol Invasion.
okyn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-02 07:50:02 
Re: A question about Moravia and the Mongol Invasion.
"Paul J Kriha"   2008-03-03 16:37:55 
Re: A question about Moravia and the Mongol Invasion.
okyn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-02 12:42:31 
Re: A question about Moravia and the Mongol Invasion.
okyn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-02 13:39:02 
Re: A question about Moravia and the Mongol Invasion.
okyn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-03 07:01:28 
Re: A question about Moravia and the Mongol Invasion.
"Paul J Kriha"   2008-03-04 16:38:46 
Re: A question about Moravia and the Mongol Invasion.
okyn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-03 11:39:18 
Re: A question about Moravia and the Mongol Invasion.
okyn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-04 05:17:59 
Re: A question about Moravia and the Mongol Invasion.
"Paul J Kriha"   2008-03-05 03:35:36 
Re: A question about Moravia and the Mongol Invasion.
KLange@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-05 14:07:55 
Re: A question about Moravia and the Mongol Invasion.
"Jenicek" <J  2008-03-05 19:45:57 
Re: A question about Moravia and the Mongol Invasion.
"Paul J Kriha"   2008-03-06 18:11:45 
Re: A question about Moravia and the Mongol Invasion.
KLange@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-05 23:22:45 

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