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> On Apr 6, 11:05 am, Karel Kriz <ka...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > kujebak <kuje...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Apr 4, 7:57 pm, "Paul J Kriha"
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> > > > "Karel Kriz" <ka...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > kujebak <kuje...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > Karel Kriz wrote:
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> > > > > > > A couple of years ago, the Catholic church held a week-long
> > > > > > > conference
> > > > > > > on Limbo. Delegates from all over the world, respected
> > > > > > > theologians,
> > > > > > > religious scholars, priests and bishops discussed Limbo for
a
> > > > > > > week.
> > > > > > > They
> > > > > > > tried to define Limbo, locate it and determine who will or
should
> > > > > > > end
> > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > in Limbo after death.
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> > > > > > > From my vantage point, also far away from the Vatican, it is
> > > > > > > inconceivable to think of a more monumental waste of time
and
> > > > > > > human
> > > > > > > effort then this Limbo conference. With the possible
exception of
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > pissing contest about which one of us ...thinks harder.
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> > > > > > There are plenty of "Limbo" fans out there, you know.
> > > > > > A lot of them voted for Clinton in open primaries.
> > > > > > He is probably the most significant reason why Hillary
> > > > > > is sort of still in the running ;-)
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> > > > > Limbo, in this context is the state between heaven and hell
where
> > > > > unbaptized children end up, reputedly for eternity. According to
the
> > > > > Papal (papist?) doctrine, anyway.
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> > > > No, you are wrong. And the pope is wrong too. Limbo is
> > > > this south of the border dance. Who manages to dance
> > > > it under the lowest horizontal bar gets the pretty girl from
> > > > the dancing troupe.
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> > > ****, I used to do that for chocolate bars for my kids.
> > > At San Jose Family Camp.
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> > >http://tinyurl.com/6yelg6
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> > Looks like a fun place. I like the fact that it's not affiliated with
> > some church....
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> And if it were, then it would not be a fun place?
Exactly. Not a fun place anymore. Not for me. This is in fact, a fine
example of government, local in this case, actually doing good things.
And evidently doing them well.
Between the ages of 11 to 15 (I think, maybe earlier) I went to camp
every year. The first one sucked and gave change! It was organized by my
father's company and it had the communist stamp all over it. I was sent
there not because of ideology but my parents wanted to get rid of me for
3 weeks in the summer. The tents were not real tents, more like little
cabins and there was a real building with "jidelna" there. What kind of
a camp was that? It was somewhere close to the German border (near
Frydlant?, maybe) and we frequently saw the actual border with the
barbed wire and the observation towers on our outings. In fact we were
given a demonstration by the border patrol how they catch those crossing
the border (They never said from WHICH side they were crossing). It was
quite a show with Alsatian dogs and automatic weapons. But I hated the
camp.
The following year, my parents convinced me to go to another, this time
independent camp organized by someone who used to be associated with
Sokol. Sokol did not exist then, but somehow this guy pulled it together
every year and had a 4 week long camp for kids. This time it was the
real deal. We arrived by buses and trucks on a green grass site and had
to build our own tents, dig latrines and set up a kitchen in a large
army tent. We had nobody to look after us, just a few camp counsellors
who were barely older the us. It was a co-ed camp.
We played rugby a lot, even boxing in a make****ft ring, lot of water
s****ts and games. Raising the flag ceremony every morning and lowering
it in the evening. Every dau someone went to nearby town to pick up
milk, bread and mail. Two of us were always assigned to potato peeling
detail and helping in the kitchen.
There was no religion and no ideology of any kind. Just fun. The
highlight was a treasure hunt during the final week. It lasted two days
and our groups had to spend the night somewhere in the open. The
treasure was a huge cake usually hidden in some cave that was filled
with tear gas! We had to retrieve it and claim the prize.
Other then a few scrapes, I don't remember anyone getting hurt.
K
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