On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 12:55:05 -0700, Karel Kriz wrote:
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>> On Apr 6, 11:05am, Karel Kriz <ka...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > kujebak <kuje...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > > On Apr 4, 7:57pm, "Paul J Kriha"
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>> > > > "Karel Kriz" <ka...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > > > > In article
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>> > > > > kujebak <kuje...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > > > > > Karel Kriz wrote:
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>> > > > > > > A couple of years ago, the Catholic church held a week-long
>> > > > > > > conference
>> > > > > > > on Limbo. Delegates from all over the world, respected
>> > > > > > > theologians,
>> > > > > > > religious scholars, priests and bishops discussed Limbo for
>> > > > > > > a week.
>> > > > > > > They
>> > > > > > > tried to define Limbo, locate it and determine who will or
>> > > > > > > should end
>> > > > > > > up
>> > > > > > > in Limbo after death.
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>> > > > > > > From my vantage point, also far away from the Vatican, it
>> > > > > > > is inconceivable to think of a more monumental waste of
>> > > > > > > time and human
>> > > > > > > effort then this Limbo conference. With the possible
>> > > > > > > exception of a
>> > > > > > > pissing contest about which one of us ...thinks harder.
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>> > > > > > There are plenty of "Limbo" fans out there, you know. A lot
>> > > > > > of them voted for Clinton in open primaries. He is probably
>> > > > > > the most significant reason why Hillary is sort of still in
>> > > > > > the running ;-)
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>> > > > > Limbo, in this context is the state between heaven and hell
>> > > > > where unbaptized children end up, reputedly for eternity.
>> > > > > According to the Papal (papist?) doctrine, anyway.
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>> > > > No, you are wrong. And the pope is wrong too. Limbo is this south
>> > > > of the border dance. Who manages to dance it under the lowest
>> > > > horizontal bar gets the pretty girl from the dancing troupe.
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>> > > ****, I used to do that for chocolate bars for my kids. At San Jose
>> > > Family Camp.
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>> > >http://tinyurl.com/6yelg6
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>> > Looks like a fun place. I like the fact that it's not affiliated with
>> > some church....
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>> And if it were, then it would not be a fun place?
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> Exactly. Not a fun place anymore. Not for me. This is in fact, a fine
> example of government, local in this case, actually doing good things.
> And evidently doing them well.
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> Between the ages of 11 to 15 (I think, maybe earlier) I went to camp
> every year. The first one sucked and gave change! It was organized by my
> father's company and it had the communist stamp all over it. I was sent
> there not because of ideology but my parents wanted to get rid of me for
> 3 weeks in the summer. The tents were not real tents, more like little
> cabins and there was a real building with "jidelna" there. What kind of
> a camp was that? It was somewhere close to the German border (near
> Frydlant?, maybe) and we frequently saw the actual border with the
> barbed wire and the observation towers on our outings. In fact we were
> given a demonstration by the border patrol how they catch those crossing
> the border (They never said from WHICH side they were crossing). It was
> quite a show with Alsatian dogs and automatic weapons. But I hated the
> camp.
> The following year, my parents convinced me to go to another, this time
> independent camp organized by someone who used to be associated with
> Sokol. Sokol did not exist then, but somehow this guy pulled it together
> every year and had a 4 week long camp for kids. This time it was the
> real deal. We arrived by buses and trucks on a green grass site and had
> to build our own tents, dig latrines and set up a kitchen in a large
> army tent. We had nobody to look after us, just a few camp counsellors
> who were barely older the us. It was a co-ed camp.
>
> We played rugby a lot, even boxing in a make****ft ring, lot of water
> s****ts and games. Raising the flag ceremony every morning and lowering
> it in the evening. Every dau someone went to nearby town to pick up
> milk, bread and mail. Two of us were always assigned to potato peeling
> detail and helping in the kitchen.
>
> There was no religion and no ideology of any kind. Just fun. The
> highlight was a treasure hunt during the final week. It lasted two days
> and our groups had to spend the night somewhere in the open. The
> treasure was a huge cake usually hidden in some cave that was filled
> with tear gas! We had to retrieve it and claim the prize.
>
> Other then a few scrapes, I don't remember anyone getting hurt.
>
>
> K
Nice story, however I believe that Frydland is located north from
Liberec, close to the border with the friendly socialist DDR and Poland.
jh.
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