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Re: Fitna - the movie

by Karel Kriz <karel@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 7, 2008 at 09:15 PM

In article 
<67806e7c-23f9-435b-9125-71cba911b054@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> On Apr 4, 8:28 pm, kujebak <kuje...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > On Apr 4, 1:09 am, Stan R <aus...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Paul J Kriha contributed these words of wisdom on 04/04/08 16:05:
> >
> > > > "Karel Kriz" <ka...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > > >news:karel-E81B00.17371803042008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> In article
> > > >>
<24a7a531-8541-4c78-9c39-0fbb5486d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > > >>  kujebak <kuje...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > >>> On Apr 3, 8:12 am, Karel Kriz <ka...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > >>>> In article
> > > >>>>
<95f2541a-72cf-45aa-afd1-9d9bf00c0...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >
> > > >>>> I do not have a predicament because I don't take xenophobic and

> > > >>>> simple
> > > >>>> minded mini movies seriously.
> >
> > > >>> It very much looks like you're going to have to vote for Obama
> > > >>> in November. You don't consider that a predicament?
> >
> > > >>>> K
> > > >> That's very far from a given. That particular bridge will be
crossed
> > > >> when we come to it. Personally, I do not care for Obama, but not
for 
> > > >> the
> > > >> reasons you might think.
> > > >> Karel
> >
> > > > Oh, this is getting too hard, you're trying to make me think
> > > > about what I think that kujebak thinks that Karel is thinking
> > > > about his reasons for not caring for Obama. Damn, now
> > > > I am thinking what would Obama think about all this if he
> > > > read this thread.
> >
> > > > Bugger it, it's all somewhere far far away. I better get up
> > > > and pour myself another glass of Chassagne-Montrachet.
> > > > You cost me money you lot, you really do. Ruddy furriners.
> >
> > > As far as I can tell from my vantage point a long way away from the
US,
> > > Obama does not really "think" too deeply on any subject beyond how
to
> > > get elected.
> >
> > > I guess that makes him no different to most politicians. On the "not
> > > think too hard" motif, it also does not make him too different from
> > > Charlie Cross.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > Who's Charlie Cross? Oh, you mean Carlos Cruz, our Carlito,
> > from Mission Viejo, south of Los Anjeles. Although, I'm sure,
> > he would vociferously defend his position (on the Obama factor)
> > as something individual, and particularly unique, I would like
> > to point out that his view is in fact very typical of of the vast
> > majority of the white liberal electorate in this year's U.S. pre-
> > sidential election. Not only are these people not looking forward
> > to November, they refuse to even think past the Democrat party
> > convention in August, as if something was going to come down
> > from heaven to resurrect the Clintons' chance for the White House.
> > Well, it ain't, because miracles don't happen to unbelievers, and
> > America could very well have its first (really) black president this
> > fall.
> 
> I admit that as I don't live in the US, I am not really taking as much
> interest in the Presidential race as you must do. My attention lately
> has been fully engaged by the US-initiated meltdown of the credit
> markets...!
> 
> Nevertheless I would still hazard an opinion that if Obama wins the
> Democratic nomination, he will be more likely to lose to McCain than
> Clinton.
I agree with that *****sment...
> 
> There is an interesting analysis of this topic here:
> 
>
http://engram-backtalk.blogspot.com/2008/04/barack-obama-vs-john-mccain.html
> 
> > Someone nobody knows absolutely nothing about, and that is
> > what's truly scary. His qualifications for the job notwithstanding.
> 
> Populism pays. It always has and always will. Particularly these days,
> with the dumbed down electorate that we have thanks to the "advances"
> in modern education and teaching methods, it's quite easy to
> understand why messianic populists can get quite some traction and why
> conmen of the century like Al Gore can become so revered in some
> circles - and particularly the media - that they stand a real chance
> of damaging western economies for good; despite the increasing
> evidence and all those dissenting scientists.
 




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Fitna - the movie
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-04-05 14:57:32 
Re: Fitna - the movie
Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-07 17:32:09 
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kujebak <kujebak@[EMAI  2008-04-02 12:59:41 
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Karel Kriz <karel@[EMA  2008-04-02 14:35:18 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-07 17:56:05 
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Karel Kriz <karel@[EMA  2008-04-07 21:15:17 
Re: Fitna - the movie
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Re: Fitna - the movie
Karel Kriz <karel@[EMA  2008-04-02 16:20:40 
Re: Limbo or no Limbo
kujebak <kujebak@[EMAI  2008-04-05 19:55:43 
Re: Limbo or no Limbo
Karel Kriz <karel@[EMA  2008-04-06 11:05:14 
Re: Fitna - the movie
kujebak <kujebak@[EMAI  2008-04-02 17:42:26 
Re: Fitna - the movie
Karel Kriz <karel@[EMA  2008-04-02 19:25:55 
Re: Limbo or no Limbo
kujebak <kujebak@[EMAI  2008-04-06 11:42:51 
Re: Limbo or no Limbo
Karel Kriz <karel@[EMA  2008-04-06 12:55:05 
Re: Fitna - the movie
kujebak <kujebak@[EMAI  2008-04-02 20:53:50 
Re: Fitna - the movie
Karel Kriz <karel@[EMA  2008-04-03 09:12:59 
Re: Fitna - the movie
kujebak <kujebak@[EMAI  2008-04-03 16:44:53 
Re: Fitna - the movie
Karel Kriz <karel@[EMA  2008-04-03 17:37:18 
Re: Fitna - the movie
"Paul J Kriha"   2008-04-04 18:05:23 
Re: Fitna - the movie
Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-04 18:09:55 
Re: Fitna - the movie
Karel Kriz <karel@[EMA  2008-04-04 07:39:03 
Re: Fitna - the movie
"Jenicek" <J  2008-04-04 13:14:43 
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Karel Kriz <karel@[EMA  2008-04-04 12:01:49 
Re: Limbo or no Limbo
"Jenicek" <J  2008-04-04 15:43:15 
Re: Fitna - the movie
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Re: Limbo or no Limbo
John Horak <johorak@[E  2008-04-06 22:03:56 
Re: Limbo or no Limbo
Karel Kriz <karel@[EMA  2008-04-06 17:43:31 
Re: Limbo or no Limbo
"Paul J Kriha"   2008-04-07 17:42:18 
Re: Limbo or no Limbo
Karel Kriz <karel@[EMA  2008-04-07 12:41:22 
Re: Limbo or no Limbo
Frank Bures <feeb@[EMA  2008-04-08 11:19:15 
Re: Limbo or no Limbo
"Paul J Kriha"   2008-04-09 21:34:44 

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