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> > > On Apr 7, 5:30 pm, Stan R <aus...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On Apr 8, 9:52 am, Karel Kriz <ka...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > On Apr 7, 2:25 pm, Karel Kriz <ka...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > On Apr 7, 12:30 pm, Karel Kriz <ka...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > > In article
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> > > > > > > > > kujebak <kuje...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > > >http://tinyurl.com/49nyj8
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> > > > > > > > > Is this a good time for someone to pry the rifle from
his
> > > > > > > > > cold,
> > > > > > > > > dead
> > > > > > > > > hands?
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> > > > > > > > > ...a mediocre actor and a poseur. No greatness there...
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> > > > > > > > > K
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> > > > > > > > Did you know he was married for over 60 years?
> > > > > > > > To the same woman I might add.
> > > > > > > > That's quite remarkable in this day and age,
> > > > > > > > wouldn't you say? Especially for an actor, and
> > > > > > > > a ... whatever ;-)
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> > > > > > > Marriage longevity is just one brownie point! Deduct two
brownie
> > > > > > > points
> > > > > > > for being the front man for the NRA, deduct two brownie
points
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > Planet of The Apes, deduct two brownie points for
> > > > > > > Earthquake....and
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > and on. The final count is in the negative, I am afraid.
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> > > > > > You got something against guns in the hands of decent,
> > > > > > upstanding citizens Heston epitomized?
> >
> > > > > I don't particularly care for guns regardless who has them.
Firing a
> > > > > semi automatic rifle at defenseless cans of Coors in the desert
is
> > > > > not
> > > > > an orgasmic experience for me.
> >
> > > > > Misreading and misinterpreting the Second Amendment hardly
qualifies
> > > > > as
> > > > > "decent and upstanding". But I understand why NRA feels that
everyone
> > > > > should be armed to the teeth. It all works so well. We have one
of
> > > > > the
> > > > > lowest murder rates in the world and our prisons are half empty
most
> > > > > of
> > > > > the time with the guards twiddling their thumbs with nothing to
do.
> > > > > That
> > > > > makes us the envy of the world. The logic of "more guns - less
crime"
> > > > > is
> > > > > a clear winner.
> >
> > > > The numbers of incarcerated people in US jails seem to have more
to do
> > > > with the ridiculous "war on drugs" than with anything else.
> >
> > > > The link between easy availability of guns and violence is by no
means
> > > > clear, either.
> >
> > > > I am personally no fan of guns, but at the same time I would
> > > > acknowledge that there exist countries with higher per-person gun
> > > > owner****p and significantly lower murder rates than the US
> > > > (Switzerland, for example), while on the other hand there are also
> > > > countries with strict gun controls in place and yet suffering from
> > > > relatively high rates of gun-related violence. According to this
> > > > source, Canada is a case in point:
> >
> > > >http://tinyurl.com/4tu9ss
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> > > > The article may perhaps not be entirely correct, but there are
plenty
> > > > of sources that paint a similar story. As they say - where there
is
> > > > smoke, there is fire.
> >
> > > > To therefore somehow conclude that defending the right to bear
weapons
> > > > is wrong - i.e. the opposite of "decent and upstanding" is plain
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> > > Oh, and let's not forget Holland:
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> > >http://tinyurl.com/4rfccq
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> > > The Dutch exodus is driven primarily by fear of
> > > crime and social disintegration. It has nothing
> > > to do with firearms.
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> > Yeah, they don't call it "Zimbabwe of the Flanders" for nothing. And
the
> > drug culture, and the whores, the place is a pit. People are
immigrating
> > to Haiti for chrissakes. And we are going to boycott them! So there,
> > those nasty, nasty Dutch! Maybe the Swiss will come to their aid with
> > their pistols and rifles...those fighting Swiss, they look so cool
> > guarding the Pope...ready for action
>
> The young adventurous ones emigrate to places like Australia,
> Canada, or New Zealand, like the article says. Hey, did you
> read the article? It was written by a Dutchman. And the older
> ones near retirement prefer places closer to home, such as,
> guess what? The Czech Republic. There are supposedly entire
> villages in Southern Bohemia (and I do know, Bohemia is only
> one part of the CR ) that are bought, sight unseen, by the Dutch.
> Unfortunately, the United States is not on the list of their desti-
> nations. Vast majority of them do not have the right skin color.
> What do you say to that?
Nothing, really. I don't understand why it's unfortunate that the US is
not on their list of destinations. I don't understand what is and what
is not the "right skin color". I don't understand why you think it's
"bad" that people emigrate, being an "emigrant" yourself. Yes, I've
heard that they buy property in Czech Republic. Maybe they like it
there, maybe they think it's a good investment. So what that the article
was written by a Dutch person. There must be hysterical, ranting right
wing Dutchmen just as they are in other countries...
This is just another conservative blog circle jerk. The ethnic make-up
of Netherlands is 87.3% white with 4.7% middle Eastern, 4.3% Asian and a
small percentage of black and Latino. These articles clearly exaggerate
the Muslim influences. Is it likely that a clear white majority is so
freaked out by a relatively small percentage of Arabs in their midst
that they abandoned their lifestyles and property and flee? It is the
conservatives mantra to paint the bleakest possible picture, specially
when the government is liberal and benign such as Netherlands is. It is
the usual one sided collection of innuendo, half truths, exaggerations
and outright lies.
Painting a decent country as though it's on the verge of collapse and a
vast exodus of people that is largely undo***ented and if it exists, the
reasons for it are probably a lot more complex than described here such
as high taxes, and better economic op****tunities elsewhere.
Finally
K
> >
> > You are a funny man....
> >
> > BTW, the country is Netherlands - Holland is just a small part of
> > Netherlands. If you vilify a country, might as well know what it's
> > called.
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