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Re: Hospoda ma inventuru?

by "Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kriha@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 22, 2008 at 06:42 PM

"Stan R" <aus086@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:accce81e-27ca-4e05-a34c-531f0927164b@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Apr 22, 7:44 am, kujebak <kuje...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > Stan R wrote:
> > > On Apr 21, 3:58 am, kujebak <kuje...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> <...>
>
> > > No jasne. Takove klasicke dilo bych cekal ze jsi precetl zanedlouho
> > > pote, co jsi se naucil ****adne anglicky! :-)
> >
> > > > Kolikrat jsi to cetl ty? Mohu-li se zeptat.
> >
> > > Dvakrat. Poprve pred lety pri cestovani po Africe. Na takovou
> > > jedenactihodinovou cestu v mozambickem autobuse to byla knizka primo
> > > idealni! ;-)
> >
> > > Podruhe jsem to pak cetl o par let pozdeji, kdyz mne pri tom
nerusily
> > > slepice, co pobihaly po autobuse... :-)
> >
> > > Cetl jsem taky Fountainhead, Anthem & We the Living. Dopurucuji je
> > > vsecky.
> >
> > > > V jednom s jejimy kritiky souhlasim. Jeji styl je ukrut-
> > > > nej. Je moc verbozni. Vety na pul stranky, kapitoly neko-
> > > > necny.
> >
> > > Jo, treba ta kapitola kde John Galt vysila v radiu o konci sveta
byla
> > > dost tvrda..! Jeste stesti ze dneska ten Internet dokaze pomoci i v
> > > takovych pripadech:
> >
> > >http://www.working-minds.com/galtmini.htm
> >
> > I found another one page synopsys for those unable,
> > or unwilling to undertake Rand's excruciating 1000+ page
> > intellectual pilgrimage:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/4ekmy3
>
> Some interesting comments there, but I do wonder whether the author of
> the site, when making statements like "...the passages where she
> exalts America and insults other countries are just outrageous..."
> really understands the era in which Rand lived and the background from
> which she had come?
>
> > Here is a view of Rand's Objectivist philosophy by a religious
> > libertarian, who (as a group) represents a more significant
> > countercurrent to the anti-growth, collectivist political main-
> > stream of present-day America.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/3jm4gx
>
> I think the very definition of libertarian sits uneasily with
> "religious". To me it's nearly as bad as the currently popular
> "libertarian socialist".
>
> Rand herself was an atheist and the objectivist philosophy, as
> explained by herself, does not naturally sit with religion:
>
> "The concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the
> moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest
> activity, and reason as his only absolute."
>
> "Religion" and "Reason" are mutually exclusive.

As our good friend Frederic Nietsche said:
 You seek happiness? Believe!
 You seek the truth? Inquire!


> It is interesting that the person who wrote this article concurs with
> the above *****sment of Rand's philosophy, as outlined in Atlas
> Shrugged.
>
> The mental contortions he subsequently resorts to in order to square
> his own "mysticism" with Rand's objectivism are amusing.
>
> > > > A ten brozovanej tisk uz neni na my oci.
> >
> > > Kopie Atlas Shrugged co mam doma ma velmi male pismo. Taky uz bych
to
> > > bez bryli tezko louskal.
> >
> > > > Nicmene,
> > > > je to tema ktere by melo byt zahrnuto do povinne cetby
> > > > na vsech strednich skolach.
> >
> > > Jo na to si jeste dlouho pockame...!
> >
> > In my opinion, Rand was born 50 years too early.
> > The 1930's - 50's were not fertile enough for her kind
> > of ideas. Insufficient historical perspective. If she
> > lived, and wrote today, she would have much more
> > significant of a following. Do you agree?
>
> Too early or too late? Just look at what your source had to say:
>
> "Much about the story is an anachronism by the time of its
> publication. No pro-Stalinist intellectuals remained outspoken in the
> USA by 1957. In the world of today, with the collapse of the Iron
> Curtain already 14 years gone, it is difficult to suspend disbelief
> and imagine that Rand is writing about a real world."
>
> In fact, I believe that her observations are just as relevant now as
> they were then, as new forms of the same old collectivist disease are
> as prevalent as ever. Amongst these, it is now radical
> environmentalism first and foremost, but the faith in ever bigger
> government, statist economic theories and the quintessential free
> lunch are all as much of a threat now as they ever were 60 years ago.
>
> S
 




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Hospoda ma inventuru?
Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-19 17:52:57 
Re: Hospoda ma inventuru?
Karel Kriz <karel@[EMA  2008-04-19 09:39:34 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-20 17:10:14 
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kujebak <kujebak@[EMAI  2008-04-19 12:10:26 
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Karel Kriz <karel@[EMA  2008-04-19 13:37:11 
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"Jenicek" <J  2008-04-19 17:40:08 
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kujebak <kujebak@[EMAI  2008-04-19 20:21:49 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-04-20 18:16:03 
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Karel Kriz <karel@[EMA  2008-04-20 17:35:56 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-20 17:22:52 
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kujebak <kujebak@[EMAI  2008-04-20 10:58:24 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-20 17:21:05 
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kujebak <kujebak@[EMAI  2008-04-20 21:52:49 
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kujebak <kujebak@[EMAI  2008-04-21 14:44:49 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-21 22:03:44 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-04-22 18:42:35 
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kujebak <kujebak@[EMAI  2008-04-22 12:37:51 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-23 20:08:21 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-04-24 01:49:34 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-04-20 12:28:51 
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"Jenicek" <J  2008-04-19 20:39:38 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-20 17:27:27 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-04-21 19:40:22 
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Frank Bures <feeb@[EMA  2008-04-21 07:55:59 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-21 22:09:13 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-21 22:18:39 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-04-22 19:26:18 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-23 20:19:17 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-04-24 02:07:11 
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kujebak <kujebak@[EMAI  2008-04-22 14:59:10 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-23 20:10:11 
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kujebak <kujebak@[EMAI  2008-04-22 15:06:00 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-04-23 15:37:32 
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"Jenicek" <J  2008-04-27 20:55:47 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-04-30 17:27:19 
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"Jenicek" <J  2008-04-30 15:17:51 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-05-01 17:51:17 
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"Jenicek" <J  2008-05-01 08:36:31 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-05-03 14:58:59 
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"Jenicek" <J  2008-05-03 00:29:05 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-23 20:11:51 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-23 18:06:40 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-04-24 18:17:45 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-27 19:48:41 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-04-28 17:19:27 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-28 21:20:32 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-04-29 19:21:04 
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kujebak <kujebak@[EMAI  2008-04-30 15:39:59 
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"Jenicek" <J  2008-04-30 19:29:46 
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obrys@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-01 00:44:16 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 16:52:52 
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obrys@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-01 02:23:20 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-05-01 22:59:23 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-05-02 17:32:35 
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k.obrys@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-02 10:30:21 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-05-18 18:20:01 
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kujebak <kujebak@[EMAI  2008-04-30 17:53:24 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-05-01 18:04:13 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-05-01 22:54:06 
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Frank Bures <feeb@[EMA  2008-05-01 09:32:30 
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Stan R <aus086@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 19:50:21 
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"Zdislav V. Kovarik&  2008-05-01 17:24:24 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-05-02 17:41:30 
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"Jenicek" <J  2008-05-02 02:47:15 
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"Paul J Kriha"   2008-05-03 00:44:01 
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"Zdislav V. Kovarik&  2008-04-23 17:10:09 

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