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Re: EU: a checkmate is looming?

by Anton <anton.usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 23, 2008 at 05:32 PM

Vladimir Makarenko kirjoitti:
> Anton wrote:
>> Dmitry kirjoitti:

http://www.president.ee/en/duties/interviews.php?gid=109520

>>> Do not forget that even a slight criticism of Russia is
>>> "russophobia".  I liked these two: "Russian thinking is still rooted
>>> in a Soviet approach that leaves little room for the concept of mutual
>>> benefit."

>> How true. A good example is this timber tariff affair with Finland. 
>> They  say the tariffs are to lure pulp and paper industry to Russia, 
>> but to build facilities and such takes years. If the tariffs would 
>> rise gradually Finnish and others could relocate some of the capacity 
>> to Russia in an controlled, orderly manner. But they are *not* 
>> increasing their tariffs gradually, but instead it is shock therapy 
>> with a tariff of 100% of the commodity value! 

> Cut the crap and exclamations: tell how the increase affected margin of 
> profit.
> This is to start with.

What increase? After the $50 tariff there is no profit, so it is a
decrease.

> To continue - regard the increase to $15/cub meter as *very gradual*

Jump from $15 to $50 where $15 is 30% of the commodity and $50 is 100%. 
That is perhaps considered gradual in some soviet school only.

 > as
> the target tariff to be reached in 5-7 years is $50.

In 5-7 years? You need to prove your claim. Our sources say it is $50 
/cub from january 2009. $50 is what a cub of birch suitable for pulp 
costs itself, so the 100% tariff is completely outrageous.

> Now the last - blame yourself: absence of EU-Russia trade agreement 
> because you fooled around while some schmucks in EU are blocking it.

What possibly could Finland have done better? Finland has no part in any 
blocking.

> Now feel free to send them your tariff bill. Or die of dehydration while

> crying over it.
> 
> VM.

Lucas and Dima and a buch of other people are right: no concept of 
mutual benefit, but plenty of arrogance, rudeness, and downright 
assholeness.

-- 
Anton
 




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Re: EU: a checkmate is looming?
Anton <anton.usenet@[E  2008-07-23 17:32:00 
Re: EU: a checkmate is looming?
Vladimir Makarenko <vm  2008-07-27 22:50:49 
Re: EU: a checkmate is looming?
Vladimir Makarenko <vm  2008-07-28 12:47:52 

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