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Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?

by constantinopoli@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Aug 14, 2008 at 07:40 AM

On Aug 14, 1:18 am, Anton <anton.use...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> James A. Donald kirjoitti:
>
> > Anton
> >> This view is generally regarded as the correct one by
> >> most scholars. Had the relation****p been "extortion
> >> and tribute" as this Donald guy is suggesting GDP and
> >> other figures would not had looked the way they did...
>
> > Your argument presupposes the truth of socialism and the
> > evil of capitalism.
>
> > Finnland was richer than the Soviet Union because
> > capitalists create wealth, socialists move poverty from
> > one person to another.  Not all the wealth produced by
> > Finns was transferred to the Soviet Union.
>
> Nobody is denying capitalism is more efficient in creating wealth.
> However it is in the very same capitalism there would be a noticeable
> deficit in the books if you give away more stuff than you receive.

What you specifically mentioned was GDP, and a high GDP is compatible
with giving away more stuff to the USSR than you receive from the
USSR. You are simply wrong when you write:

> >> Had the relation****p been "extortion
> >> and tribute" as this Donald guy is suggesting GDP [...]
> >>  would not had looked the way [it] did...

GDP in fact very well can look as it did even as a country is paying
tribute, provided the country is sufficiently productive. So that part
of what you're saying is just incorrect. Which leaves us with:

> >> most scholars. Had the relation****p been "extortion
> >> and tribute" as this Donald guy is suggesting [...]
> >> other figures would not had looked the way they did...

So tell us what these "other figures" are which "would not have looked
the way they did".
 




 13 Posts in Topic:
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
constantinopoli@[EMAIL PR  2008-08-14 07:40:49 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
Anton <anton.usenet@[E  2008-08-15 10:44:09 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-08-15 10:18:05 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
James A. Donald <james  2008-08-17 14:05:00 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
valtsu <valtsu@[EMAIL   2008-08-17 20:01:45 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
Gerry Quinn <gerryq@[E  2008-09-24 02:29:38 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
"J. Anderson" &  2008-09-24 12:45:44 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
"captain." <  2008-09-26 10:47:07 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
James A. Donald <james  2008-08-19 16:46:29 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
Anton <anton.usenet@[E  2008-08-19 12:11:01 
Re: Socialism or Capitalism: What is better?
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-08-19 09:48:18 
Finno-Soviet relations (Re: Socialism...)
Anton <anton.usenet@[E  2008-08-20 11:30:19 
Re: Finno-Soviet relations (Re: Socialism...)
David Friedman <ddfr@[  2008-08-20 11:03:22 

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