On Sep 29, 9:24=A0am, Colonel Sanders <themail...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Sep 29, 3:53=A0pm, tadas.bli...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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> > On Sep 29, 7:49=A0am, hol...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Eugene Holman) wrote:
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> > > I despise what the Americans did in Hawaii as much as I despise what
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the
> > > Soviets did in the Baltics. However, I recognize that the "official"
> > > historical narrative in the two countries downplays or ignores these
> > > tawdry episodes, and that the average American or Russian easily
goes=
into
> > > denial when the facts and parallelism are pointed out.
>
> > "Linkage" of issues is a standard KGB dezinformacija / agit-prop
> > tactic.
>
> > > I feel extremely uncomfortable when people say, well, the Hawaiians
w=
ere just a bunch of
> > > childlike hula-hula dancers whose women walked around bare breasted
i=
n
> > > grass skirts, so the Americans civilized them by taking over their
> > > country, but the Soviets were a bunch of barbarians who brutalised
th=
e
> > > Baltic peoples and should be damned to the deepest region of hell
for
> > > having done so. Even if this is a Baltic forum, the double standard
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s
> > > profoundly disturbing.
>
> > What's profoundly disturbing is your single-minded dedication to being
> > an apologist for the USSR / Russia. =A0 I feel extremely uncomfortable
> > when people like you link the Baltic issue to the Hawaii non-issue,
> > hoping that since people (especially Americans) don't give a ****
> > about how Hawaii came to be part of USA, you hope the linkage of
> > issues will plant the idea in their minds that it doesn't matter how
> > the Baltic states came to be part of USSR, or that Ossetia and
> > Abkhazia are right at this moment becoming part of the Russian Empire
> > by the same process. =A0Your Leitmotiv is "Like, everybody does it, so
> > it's OK, it's no big deal."
>
> > Well, your linkage sucks. =A0We, as civilised Europeans (i.e. =96 non-
> > Russians), need to be telling those eastern barbarians NOT that it's
> > OK to emulate what USA did more than a century ago, BUT we should be
> > telling them they have to emulate civilised countries, like
> > Switzerland and the Scandinavian countries, that haven't attempted
> > imperialism for a couple of hundred years (Switzerland =96 never) and
> > most Western European countries, that have behaved themselves for more
> > than a century now, with the unfortunate exception of Italy and
> > Germany. =A0But the great civilising force of the EU is here to stay,
> > and European standards (=3D EU standards) should be what all Europeans
> > strive for. =A0If the Russians want to call themselves Europeans,
that'=
s
> > the standard they have to aim to meet. =A0So stop making excuses for
> > them. =A0Sorry, "Yankeeland does it too" doesn't get the Russians off
> > the hook.
>
> Russians should probably stand up and denounce the British trained
> and directed Bolshevik sell-out s***. The problem is it goes deeper
> than simply that as the Nazis were exactly just that too.
>
> Making information public, under the current global set-up would be
> the equivalent of declaring a war to the Anglo-American Empire.
> Not to mention that it is protected by heavy PC buffer regarding
> the mythological Jewish community. The risks are too high and
> Russia could end up looking like a bad guy for telling the truth.
>
> First the World Jewish community must deal with it's demons and
> denounce its British masters.
>
> Balts who invite Russia to sacrifice itself and take the blame are
> perfectly aware of this and can only be motivated by irrational
> hatred.
Get help, "kernel". I hear tell that the new medications work wonders.
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