On Sep 29, 6:04=A0pm, Colonel Sanders <themail...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Sep 29, 5:46=A0pm, tadas.bli...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Sep 29, 9:24=A0am, Colonel Sanders <themail...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Sep 29, 3:53=A0pm, tadas.bli...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On Sep 29, 7:49=A0am, hol...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Eugene Holman)
wrot=
e:
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> > > > > I despise what the Americans did in Hawaii as much as I despise
w=
hat the
> > > > > Soviets did in the Baltics. However, I recognize that the
"offici=
al"
> > > > > historical narrative in the two countries downplays or ignores
th=
ese
> > > > > tawdry episodes, and that the average American or Russian easily
=
goes into
> > > > > denial when the facts and parallelism are pointed out.
>
> > > > "Linkage" of issues is a standard KGB dezinformacija / agit-prop
> > > > tactic.
>
> > > > > I feel extremely uncomfortable when people say, well, the
Hawaiia=
ns were just a bunch of
> > > > > childlike hula-hula dancers whose women walked around bare
breast=
ed in
> > > > > grass skirts, so the Americans civilized them by taking over
thei=
r
> > > > > country, but the Soviets were a bunch of barbarians who
brutalise=
d the
> > > > > Baltic peoples and should be damned to the deepest region of
hell=
for
> > > > > having done so. Even if this is a Baltic forum, the double
standa=
rd is
> > > > > profoundly disturbing.
>
> > > > What's profoundly disturbing is your single-minded dedication to
be=
ing
> > > > an apologist for the USSR / Russia. =A0 I feel extremely
uncomforta=
ble
> > > > when people like you link the Baltic issue to the Hawaii
non-issue,
> > > > hoping that since people (especially Americans) don't give a ****
> > > > about how Hawaii came to be part of USA, you hope the linkage of
> > > > issues will plant the idea in their minds that it doesn't matter
ho=
w
> > > > the Baltic states came to be part of USSR, or that Ossetia and
> > > > Abkhazia are right at this moment becoming part of the Russian
Empi=
re
> > > > by the same process. =A0Your Leitmotiv is "Like, everybody does
it,=
so
> > > > it's OK, it's no big deal."
>
> > > > Well, your linkage sucks. =A0We, as civilised Europeans (i.e. =96
n=
on-
> > > > Russians), need to be telling those eastern barbarians NOT that
it'=
s
> > > > OK to emulate what USA did more than a century ago, BUT we should
b=
e
> > > > telling them they have to emulate civilised countries, like
> > > > Switzerland and the Scandinavian countries, that haven't attempted
> > > > imperialism for a couple of hundred years (Switzerland =96 never)
a=
nd
> > > > most Western European countries, that have behaved themselves for
m=
ore
> > > > than a century now, with the unfortunate exception of Italy and
> > > > Germany. =A0But the great civilising force of the EU is here to
sta=
y,
> > > > and European standards (=3D EU standards) should be what all
Europe=
ans
> > > > strive for. =A0If the Russians want to call themselves Europeans,
t=
hat's
> > > > the standard they have to aim to meet. =A0So stop making excuses
fo=
r
> > > > them. =A0Sorry, "Yankeeland does it too" doesn't get the Russians
o=
ff
> > > > the hook.
>
> > > Russians should probably stand up and denounce the British trained
> > > and directed Bolshevik sell-out s***. The problem is it goes deeper
> > > than simply that as the Nazis were exactly just that too.
>
> > > Making information public, under the current global set-up would be
> > > the equivalent of declaring a war to the Anglo-American Empire.
> > > Not to mention that it is protected by heavy PC buffer regarding
> > > the mythological Jewish community. The risks are too high and
> > > Russia could end up looking like a bad guy for telling the truth.
>
> > > First the World Jewish community must deal with it's demons and
> > > denounce its British masters.
>
> > > Balts who invite Russia to sacrifice itself and take the blame are
> > > perfectly aware of this and can only be motivated by irrational
> > > hatred.
>
> > Get help, "kernel". =A0I hear tell that the new medications work
wonder=
s.
>
> Indeed they do.
> Hating is a huge waste of time but don't take my word for it
> you'll get there eventually. Personal development and evolution
> should not come by coercion so take your time.
PS
What was the point of setting up this childish follow-up?
How "European" and "Civilized" of you, tada!
soc.culture.europe, soc.culture.nordic, alt.politics removed
follow up to soc.culture.baltics
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