On Sep 29, 7:20=A0pm, lorad <lorad...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Sep 29, 1:14 am, Colonel Sanders <themail...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > On Sep 29, 6:04 pm, Colonel Sanders <themail...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > > On Sep 29, 5:46 pm, tadas.bli...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> > > > On Sep 29, 9:24 am, Colonel Sanders <themail...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wro=
te:
> > > > > On Sep 29, 3:53 pm, tadas.bli...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> > > > > > On Sep 29, 7:49 am, hol...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Eugene Holman)
wr=
ote:
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> > > > > > > I despise what the Americans did in Hawaii as much as I
despi=
se what the
> > > > > > > Soviets did in the Baltics. However, I recognize that the
"of=
ficial"
> > > > > > > historical narrative in the two countries downplays or
ignore=
s these
> > > > > > > tawdry episodes, and that the average American or Russian
eas=
ily goes into
> > > > > > > denial when the facts and parallelism are pointed out.
>
> > > > > > "Linkage" of issues is a standard KGB dezinformacija /
agit-pro=
p
> > > > > > tactic.
>
> > > > > > > I feel extremely uncomfortable when people say, well, the
Haw=
aiians were just a bunch of
> > > > > > > childlike hula-hula dancers whose women walked around bare
br=
easted in
> > > > > > > grass skirts, so the Americans civilized them by taking over
=
their
> > > > > > > country, but the Soviets were a bunch of barbarians who
bruta=
lised the
> > > > > > > Baltic peoples and should be damned to the deepest region of
=
hell for
> > > > > > > having done so. Even if this is a Baltic forum, the double
st=
andard is
> > > > > > > profoundly disturbing.
>
> > > > > > What's profoundly disturbing is your single-minded dedication
t=
o being
> > > > > > an apologist for the USSR / Russia. =A0 I feel extremely
uncomf=
ortable
> > > > > > when people like you link the Baltic issue to the Hawaii
non-is=
sue,
> > > > > > hoping that since people (especially Americans) don't give a
fu=
ck
> > > > > > about how Hawaii came to be part of USA, you hope the linkage
o=
f
> > > > > > issues will plant the idea in their minds that it doesn't
matte=
r how
> > > > > > the Baltic states came to be part of USSR, or that Ossetia and
> > > > > > Abkhazia are right at this moment becoming part of the Russian
=
Empire
> > > > > > by the same process. =A0Your Leitmotiv is "Like, everybody
does=
it, so
> > > > > > it's OK, it's no big deal."
>
> > > > > > Well, your linkage sucks. =A0We, as civilised Europeans (i.e.
=
=96 non-
> > > > > > Russians), need to be telling those eastern barbarians NOT
that=
it's
> > > > > > OK to emulate what USA did more than a century ago, BUT we
shou=
ld be
> > > > > > telling them they have to emulate civilised countries, like
> > > > > > Switzerland and the Scandinavian countries, that haven't
attemp=
ted
> > > > > > imperialism for a couple of hundred years (Switzerland =96
neve=
r) and
> > > > > > most Western European countries, that have behaved themselves
f=
or more
> > > > > > than a century now, with the unfortunate exception of Italy
and
> > > > > > Germany. =A0But the great civilising force of the EU is here
to=
stay,
> > > > > > and European standards (=3D EU standards) should be what all
Eu=
ropeans
> > > > > > strive for. =A0If the Russians want to call themselves
European=
s, that's
> > > > > > the standard they have to aim to meet. =A0So stop making
excuse=
s for
> > > > > > them. =A0Sorry, "Yankeeland does it too" doesn't get the
Russia=
ns off
> > > > > > the hook.
>
> > > > > Russians should probably stand up and denounce the British
traine=
d
> > > > > and directed Bolshevik sell-out s***. The problem is it goes
deep=
er
> > > > > than simply that as the Nazis were exactly just that too.
>
> A little late in the day (90 years late) for that bit of news, don't
> you think?
> The genesis of russian bolshevism is a matter more for historians.
> Current day problems exist today, now, with thr russkies - who still
> act as though international communist global revolution never ended.
> (see Ossetia, Abkhazia, and Chechnya for examples)
>
> > > > > Making information public, under the current global set-up would
=
be
> > > > > the equivalent of declaring a war to the Anglo-American Empire.
> > > > > Not to mention that it is protected by heavy PC buffer regarding
> > > > > the mythological Jewish community. The risks are too high and
> > > > > Russia could end up looking like a bad guy for telling the
truth.
>
> > > > > First the World Jewish community must deal with it's demons and
> > > > > denounce its British masters.
>
> > > > > Balts who invite Russia to sacrifice itself and take the blame
ar=
e
> > > > > perfectly aware of this and can only be motivated by irrational
> > > > > hatred.
>
> No one is inviting russia to sacrifice itself..
> Instead they are inviting the medieval barbarian russian s*** not to
> invade other people's countries.
> It's pretty simple, actually.
>
> Oh... and the only obvious hatred on anyone's screen is that of the
> russians.. who for some reason hate neighboring countries and people
> so much that they actually invade them and kill them. There's your
> 'hate' comrade.
>
> Go complain to the proper moskow authorities.
>
> > > > Get help, "kernel". =A0I hear tell that the new medications work
wo=
nders.
>
> > > Indeed they do.
> > > Hating is a huge waste of time but don't take my word for it
> > > you'll get there eventually. Personal development and evolution
> > > should not come by coercion so take your time.
>
> Seeing as how you represent the extremist russian Nazi-Bolsheviks
> ('NatzBols') in russia..(who stomp non-russians to death for fun).. I
> can see how much you are interested in hate.
You got that wrong, lorad, I don't represent any NutBolts and you
know very well that Russia didn't finance the Bolsheviks.
Ossetia, Abkhazia don't want to be part of Georgia, it's neither mine
nor is it your business to tell them what to do. In case you haven't
noticed, the Russians managed to restore peace quickly and
efficiently.
Where is Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Wallstreet ...
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