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Re: looking for a limerick

by "Ildhund" <jnllb@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 13, 2008 at 04:25 PM

"Paul" <paulmathewmac@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:df3fcf65-3ddb-49cb-8850-46f8ebca5505@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> And the auditory difference between the 'o' vowel (sort of a 'flat o'
> or an 'o' with a front vowel resonance) in 'for' and the  'deep
> o' (with a back vowel resonance) in 'four' could only be lost on a
> rock band desperately looking for a name for itself, sufficientlyf
> shocking to those of us with finer sensibilities, as this difference
> is well entrenched  in standard international English (RP), British
> English, American English, Canadian English and Australian English

I have been trying all afternoon, but I still cannot detect any difference

at all in the way I pronounce the syllable preceding 'arms' in
(a) He voted against 'Pygmalion' but for 'Arms and the Man'.
(b) My Thalidomide brother had four arms, but I have only two.
(c) My forearms are skinnier than my brother's.

There is a difference, of course, if the syllable is unstressed, but only
in 
the case of 'for'. As far as I can tell, the stressed syllable has exactly

the same vowel sound as in 'floor' and 'flaw' or 'or' and 'awe'. It could
be 
followed by a glottal stop in (a) and (b), but not (c).

Are my sensibilities less fine than others'?
-- 
Noel
 




 27 Posts in Topic:
looking for a limerick
Olaf Foellinger <olaf@  2008-02-11 18:36:45 
Re: looking for a limerick
John Hall <nospam_nov0  2008-02-11 19:16:13 
Re: looking for a limerick
ADPUF <flyhunter@[EMAI  2008-02-12 00:07:35 
Re: looking for a limerick
Egbert White <eggwhite  2008-02-11 18:10:08 
Re: looking for a limerick
sprocket <bucket@[EMAI  2008-02-12 07:58:25 
Re: looking for a limerick
tony@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-02-12 10:44:27 
Re: looking for a limerick
Paul <paulmathewmac@[E  2008-02-13 06:46:56 
Re: looking for a limerick
"Ildhund" <j  2008-02-13 16:25:59 
Re: looking for a limerick
sprocket <bucket@[EMAI  2008-02-14 08:12:45 
Re: looking for a limerick
tony@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-02-13 17:32:56 
Re: looking for a limerick
Paul <paulmathewmac@[E  2008-02-14 08:28:24 
Re: looking for a limerick
John Hall <nospam_nov0  2008-02-12 09:41:23 
Re: looking for a limerick
Olaf Foellinger <olaf@  2008-02-12 15:14:35 
Re: looking for a limerick
ADPUF <flyhunter@[EMAI  2008-02-12 22:57:28 
Re: looking for a limerick
sprocket <bucket@[EMAI  2008-02-13 08:02:20 
Re: looking for a limerick
Einde O'Callaghan <ein  2008-02-13 09:32:40 
Re: looking for a limerick
Paul <paulmathewmac@[E  2008-02-14 08:36:42 
Re: looking for a limerick
Paul <paulmathewmac@[E  2008-02-14 08:37:28 
Re: looking for a limerick
tony@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-02-14 22:54:48 
Re: looking for a limerick
"Charles Lindsey&quo  2008-02-15 14:19:39 
Re: looking for a limerick
Paul <paulmathewmac@[E  2008-02-15 09:35:42 
Re: looking for a limerick
sprocket <bucket@[EMAI  2008-02-16 11:55:53 
Re: looking for a limerick
Paul <paulmathewmac@[E  2008-02-19 01:31:42 
Re: looking for a limerick
John Hall <nospam_nov0  2008-02-19 10:32:58 
Re: looking for a limerick
tony@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-02-19 11:15:02 
Re: looking for a limerick
Zhang DaWei <feiwu@[EM  2008-02-13 18:34:03 
Re: looking for a limerick
John Hall <nospam_nov0  2008-02-13 18:48:53 

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