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Re: The "prison IS university" metaphor - a review

by Evan Kirshenbaum <kirshenbaum@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 15, 2008 at 09:46 AM

LFS <laura@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:

> Molly Mockford wrote:
>> At 05:04:23 on Sat, 15 Mar 2008, FCS <sipston_777@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
>> in
>> <2d398840-45d0-47f8-9e05-385f3e2fd9b0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>:
>>
>>> tended to leave prison with a range of criminal skills enabling
>>> them to hotwire vehicles, forge keys and pry 10 types of window jamb
>> Excuse me, but although you may get away with that in aue, in ucle
>> we speak UK English, and the word is "prise".  "Pry" means to
>> intrude, to poke one's nose into somebody else's affairs; "prise"
>> means to jemmy.
>
> According to OED, pry is used thus in one part of the UK:
>
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>      1. trans. orig. U.S. and Eng. regional (E. Anglian). To raise,
>      move, or force up, out, open, etc., with a lever; = PRISE
>      v. 1a. Also in extended use.

I read that as saying that it was *originally* used in the US and East
Anglia, with the implication that it is no longer so restricted.

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The "prison IS university" metaphor - a review
FCS <sipston_777@[EMAI  2008-03-15 05:04:23 
Re: The "prison IS university" metaphor - a review
Molly Mockford <nospam  2008-03-15 12:39:08 
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LFS <laura@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-15 13:30:00 
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Evan Kirshenbaum <kirs  2008-03-15 09:46:33 
Re: The "prison IS university" metaphor - a review
"John Briggs" &  2008-03-15 20:48:16 
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Peter Moylan <peter@[E  2008-03-16 12:12:04 
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tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-03-15 10:16:43 
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{R} <nospam@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-15 14:54:30 
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tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-03-15 11:28:02 
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"Pat Durkin" &l  2008-03-15 15:41:51 
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tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-03-15 14:20:58 
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John Kane <jrkrideau@[  2008-03-15 14:42:18 
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trio@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-03-16 14:54:46 
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Peter Duncanson <mail@  2008-03-16 14:50:05 
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trio@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-03-16 16:53:31 
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sprocket <jas@[EMAIL P  2008-03-17 09:28:01 
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Lewis <g.kreme@[EMAIL   2008-03-15 21:09:08 
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sprocket <jas@[EMAIL P  2008-03-17 09:24:05 
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Lewis <g.kreme@[EMAIL   2008-03-17 05:21:02 
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David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-17 17:33:18 
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Lewis <g.kreme@[EMAIL   2008-03-17 13:07:25 
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David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-17 20:01:38 
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R H Draney <dadoctah@[  2008-03-17 14:20:13 
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LFS <laura@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-17 21:22:25 
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R H Draney <dadoctah@[  2008-03-17 15:19:15 
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"Peter Duncanson (Br  2008-03-17 22:44:35 
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LFS <laura@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-18 07:33:21 
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R H Draney <dadoctah@[  2008-03-18 01:44:48 
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the Omrud <usenet.omru  2008-03-17 23:02:12 
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Frances Kemmish <fkemm  2008-03-19 07:30:57 
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tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-03-17 17:32:16 
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LFS <laura@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-17 21:34:15 
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David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-17 22:15:19 
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Lewis <g.kreme@[EMAIL   2008-03-17 23:53:01 
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David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-17 22:27:50 
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Evan Kirshenbaum <kirs  2008-03-17 16:04:31 
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tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-03-17 22:02:43 
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David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-18 08:41:06 
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tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-03-18 09:39:51 
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David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-18 16:27:34 
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tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-03-18 15:28:38 
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David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-18 20:00:44 
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tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-03-18 18:42:17 
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ADPUF <flyhunter@[EMAI  2008-03-19 00:43:17 
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David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-19 08:43:41 
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"Peter Duncanson (Br  2008-03-19 12:09:15 
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David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-19 16:10:09 
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the Omrud <usenet.omru  2008-03-19 16:24:28 
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David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-19 16:39:38 
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"Peter Duncanson (Br  2008-03-19 16:41:25 
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the Omrud <usenet.omru  2008-03-19 17:02:34 
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LFS <laura@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-19 17:30:05 
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the Omrud <usenet.omru  2008-03-19 17:38:19 
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David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-19 17:53:40 
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tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-03-19 14:48:09 
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tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-03-19 12:01:47 
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David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-19 16:19:21 
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tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-03-19 15:00:08 
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David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-19 20:06:03 
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R H Draney <dadoctah@[  2008-03-18 12:04:23 
Re: The "prison IS university" metaphor - a review
Lewis <g.kreme@[EMAIL   2008-03-17 23:56:58 
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R H Draney <dadoctah@[  2008-03-17 23:31:16 
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Lewis <g.kreme@[EMAIL   2008-03-18 02:33:31 
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"Mike Lyle" <  2008-03-18 18:08:40 
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Fred Springer <fred.sp  2008-03-18 12:21:06 
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John Varela <OLDlamps@  2008-03-17 23:19:22 
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"Reunite Gondwanalan  2008-03-19 15:59:55 
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Lewis <g.kreme@[EMAIL   2008-03-19 20:42:37 
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sprocket <jas@[EMAIL P  2008-03-18 08:04:55 
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Amethyst Deceiver <spa  2008-03-18 12:03:40 
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David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-18 16:32:45 
Re: The "prison IS university" metaphor - a review
Molly Mockford <nospam  2008-03-18 23:05:48 
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"John Briggs" &  2008-03-18 23:34:15 
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ADPUF <flyhunter@[EMAI  2008-03-17 23:37:20 
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Oleg Lego <rat@[EMAIL   2008-03-17 23:16:05 
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Molly Mockford <nospam  2008-03-18 19:25:47 
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"Peter Duncanson (Br  2008-03-15 16:26:08 
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Peter Moylan <peter@[E  2008-03-16 12:17:06 
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sprocket <jas@[EMAIL P  2008-03-17 09:20:04 
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jerry_friedman@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-17 21:57:36 
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"jerry_friedman@[EMA  2008-03-19 20:25:28 
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R H Draney <dadoctah@[  2008-03-19 20:47:58 
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Molly Mockford <nospam  2008-03-19 23:37:49 
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sprocket <jas@[EMAIL P  2008-03-20 08:01:24 
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Molly Mockford <nospam  2008-03-20 08:33:34 
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"Don Phillipson"  2008-03-15 08:32:35 
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FCS <sipston_777@[EMAI  2008-03-15 06:08:38 
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FCS <sipston_777@[EMAI  2008-03-15 06:23:36 
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"Don Phillipson"  2008-03-15 11:06:12 
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FCS <sipston_777@[EMAI  2008-03-15 06:53:54 
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Molly Mockford <nospam  2008-03-15 14:03:50 
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"jerry_friedman@[EMA  2008-03-15 20:30:46 
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Molly Mockford <nospam  2008-03-16 14:01:56 
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LFS <laura@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-16 14:12:25 
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Einde O'Callaghan <ein  2008-03-16 17:31:06 
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Molly Mockford <nospam  2008-03-16 16:23:41 
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Mike Lyle <mike_lyle_u  2008-03-17 11:58:34 
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tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-03-17 17:38:17 
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Evan Kirshenbaum <kirs  2008-03-17 15:31:49 
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David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-17 22:40:53 
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Evan Kirshenbaum <kirs  2008-03-17 15:59:40 
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David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-18 08:29:23 
Re: The "prison IS university" metaphor - a review
Amethyst Deceiver <spa  2008-03-18 12:04:50 
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"Mike Lyle" <  2008-03-18 18:00:20 
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David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-18 19:41:45 
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"Mike Lyle" <  2008-03-18 21:52:53 
Re: The "prison IS university" metaphor - a review
David <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-18 22:29:14 
Re: The "prison IS university" metaphor - a review
tony cooper <tony_coop  2008-03-18 21:39:18 
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Mike Lyle <mike_lyle_u  2008-03-17 16:11:05 
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Mike Lyle <mike_lyle_u  2008-03-17 16:20:15 
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Mike Page <mikeorang@[  2008-03-18 13:01:11 
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"Mike Lyle" <  2008-03-18 18:05:03 
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LFS <laura@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-18 18:10:01 

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