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Re: Corinthian values

by Peter Duncanson <mail@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 15, 2008 at 05:56 PM

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:12:00 GMT, "John Briggs"
<john.briggs4@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>Ildhund wrote:
>> Does anyone know the origin of this expression? Is it biblical or
>> classical?
>
>Classical.
>
> I have a notion that the Corinthian/Commoners dichotomy is
>> analogous to Gentlemen/Players, the Corinthians being successors to
>> Dandies and similar high- (and loose-) living young gentlemen of
>> means. Does it pre-date the formation of the Corinthians football
>> club in 1882?
>
>You have curious notions. 

As does the OED (most quotations snipt):

    A. adj.
    3. 'Relating to the licentious manners of Corinth' (J.),
       profligate; in 19th c. use: Given to elegant dissipation.

    4. (U.S.) Yachting. Amateur.

       1885 Harper's Mag. June 83/1 On the yacht of a friend who
       was fond of sailing Corinthian races.

    B. n.    
    2. (From the proverbial wealth, luxury, and licentiousness
       of ancient Corinth):
       {dag}a. A wealthy man; a
       profligate idler; a gay, licentious man; also, a
       shameless or 'brazen-faced' fellow (cf. A. 1c). Obs.
    
       b. A 'swell'; a man of fa****on about town.
          'In the third decade of the present century the word,
          both as a substantive and an adjective, was at the
          height of its popularity' (Latham).

          1819 MOORE Tom Crib's Mem. 9 (Farmer) 'Twas diverting
          to see, as one ogled around, How Corinthians and
          Commoners mixed on the ground.   
  
       c. A wealthy amateur of s****t who rides his own horses,
          steers his own yacht, etc.; esp. in U.S. an amateur
          yachtsman.
    
       Hence Co{sm}rinthianism.

> It relates to the ideal of amateur s****t - 
>associated with Greece, for some reason, cf Olympic Games.

-- 
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in uk.culture.language.english)
 




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"Ildhund" <j  2008-04-15 15:30:08 
Re: Corinthian values
"John Briggs" &  2008-04-15 16:12:00 
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Peter Duncanson <mail@  2008-04-15 17:56:35 
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"John Briggs" &  2008-04-15 18:46:46 
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sprocket <jas@[EMAIL P  2008-04-16 08:15:42 
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"Ildhund" <j  2008-04-16 17:22:28 
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